Well, I just bought THIS, I reckon, from my testing they all work very well.
I burned 91% Isopropyl alcohol in mine and it worked very well.
In doing some research, I have found reference to folks using HEET water remover to burn in theirs as HEET is Methanol.
I seem to have bought the last of the ones from the site I linked, but they can be found by googling Swedish Alcohol Stove or Trangia stove.
It was around 25 degrees outside when I tested the 8 stoves that came with the package I bought and it did take a few minutes for the stove and alcohol to warm up and burn properly and I tested them with the wind screens installed and in a 15MPH wind, I was able to get a full cook pot (about a quart) of water boiling in 22 minutes.
I find from my research that in warmer conditions, with the stove placed out of the wind, that water can be boiled in under 10 minutes.
My testing took about 28 ml of alcohol per stove.
As I understand it, these type stoves MUST function as they have no parts to fail as is the case with a pump up white gas stove or propane stove.
As long as you have fuel and a way to light it, it will work according to my research both before and after my purchase.
Overall I am pleased and have already placed one with fuel and multiple ignition sources in my emergency kit in my truck and one is going in both my wife and daughters vehicles as well as my home emergency kit.
If anyone here has used this type or similar alcohol stoves, please let me know what your experience was with them.
I give them a thumbs up!
Edit: hopefully, this weekend I can add a few pics or a video of these units in action.
I have an alcohol stove made out of a soda pop can that is very similar. I like it and it works great with HEET. HEET burns very clean.
I use my little stove when I go on my hiking trips. It's small and light. And, as you stated, they have no moving parts so they don't break. My little soda pop can stove could be crushed, making it usless, but it's not likely to happen under regular circumstances.
Thanks for the reply Chuck and for the info on HEET, I will give it a try.
I have made the pop can stoves before, but the results I got were less than desired. (I think I got a little impatient and made it too quickly and made the burner holes too big)
For cold weather I am going to try putting the stove I bought inside of a 10 oz tuna can and poor alcohol down between the stove and can and light it off to pre-heat the stove and its fuel to help the stove reach operating temp a little quicker, this seemed to work fairly well with the pop can stove, so hopefully it will work even better with an actual Trangia type stove.
yes pre heating a alchol stove makes all the diffrence in the world. and dont forget they work like poo below 0C or 40F. you have to warm them up one way or another.
i have been building pop can stoves over the last two months working with a US metal canteen cup and stove/stand other than a few mods to the stove/stand to allow proper airflow this setup works good for popcan stoves i boil 500mills(half a liter) of COLD water is about 7 mins at near sea level. ( and me and a buddy found out that altitude make a big diffrence the stoves he builds that burn like wildfire at Elevation 360 m (1,181 ft) dont work well at my house at Elevation: 42 m. (138 ft.)) here is a great site learn all about various stoves..but mostly plans to build your own alcohol stove
i use 8oz stainless steel boose flasks to hold my fuel just have to mark it poisonous and not vodka. btw i buy stove fuel at the paint store in a gallon jug for 10$ methanol burns at half the temp of ethonal but i cant find it anywhere.
Hi Y'all I just found this site and this particular thread is a great one. I've been involved with survival techniques since my time in the Boy Scouts 25+ years ago. The BSA Field Book had a section devoted to wilderness survival and had survival kit information as well, the kit noted was a pretty good one to use as is or to use as a basis to start. I've recently purchased a couple of kits by LifeLine First Aid that I have modified from the original to be more suitable for my needs. By themselves they seem to be very usable kits for different undertakings. These are not expensive and can be found at outdoor retailers, I got mine from Sportsman's Warehouse for a decent price. So far my mods have been the addition of Potable Aqua tablets and multiple fire starting implements. I'll continue to tailor them until I have just what I need.
Don't be surprised if your earlier post gets edited or just plain deleted by the mod, seems they don't like links to outside sources around here. (I think they consider it advertising, as opposed to information sharing) Though the deleting is rather hit or miss as the mod isn't around much.
Thank you Marine. I've hung around some of the other Discovery Channel forums but have grown mostly disappointed in them due to some very abusive posters. Those particular folks seem to think that they are the Be All and End All for that forum and if you don't think like they do, or worship the pages on which they post, then you're simply scum of the earth and not fit to be in the presence of that forum. I have a fair amount of survival knowledge and a bit of experience and I'm always looking to add to my base of knowledge. If the link to the product I mentioned is deleted, I'll just put it back up since it is most assuredly useful information and definitely germaine to the forum and discussion.
Cool, Jim. We need more civilized folks here abouts. --------------------------- Back to the alcohol stoves: Seems like Isopropyl Alcohol (91%) soots up the bottom of my cooking pot pretty bad and it makes for a messy clean up as well as getting on my hands when holding it to eat.
So a question for those who use HEET or Denatured Alcohol. Do they soot up your cooking pot/canteen cup?
"So a question for those who use HEET or Denatured Alcohol. Do they soot up your cooking pot/canteen cup?"
No, they don't. Isopropyl alcohol soots up because it's only something like 80% alcohol...the rest is water. So it burns too "cool" to completely burn the alcohol and that is what produces the soot.
Originally posted by ratpack07: Trioxane Fuel Bars are nice since you don't have anything that can spill. and they are what are meant to be used with the U.S. canteen stoves. http://shop.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=111028
Yup, I have cooked over many a Trioxane bar, back in the 80s, they are pretty good, but they take a long time to get a good boil to cook and soften a cup full of Ramen noodles.
Also if you get a pouch with a bad seal, the Trioxane(?) or something evaporates out of them and they don't burn.
The fumes off of them are also pretty foul, (especially when cooking in a hooch on a pouring rain day).
I seem to remember a warning about them causing cancer....though that may be just a military myth.
Originally posted by doggonega: "So a question for those who use HEET or Denatured Alcohol. Do they soot up your cooking pot/canteen cup?"
No, they don't. Isopropyl alcohol soots up because it's only something like 80% alcohol...the rest is water. So it burns too "cool" to completely burn the alcohol and that is what produces the soot.
Cool, thanks for the info, I'll go to the paint store and get a gallon of Denatured Alcohol for fuel.
Yeah, I used the 90% Isopropyl, but I figured the water content had something to do with the sooting.
The wife wasn't happy when I washed off all the soot in the kitchen sink!
Originally posted by formermarine0341: I finally got some denatured alcohol and it even says right on the can, "For use as a Marine Stove fuel, burns hot, clean and odorless."
Very nice.
Does it say what % of alcohol it is? My guess is it's pretty high (like 98%). Have you tried it out yet?
"Unfortunately it doesn't say what percent it is on the can"
The Klean Strip website has links to the labels of their products. The denatured alcohol labels doesn't say anything that I can find about the percentage, so that leads me to think it's 100% alcohol
It doesn't even say what kind of alcohol it is...but another website where they sell it says it's ethanol. Since it's labeled as a poison this seems consistent with the warnings on the can!
Yup it opens up to be a shovel at which point the pick lays flat up the handle to offer more stability.
Yup, it is basically the military design, but smaller.
The handle screws together in the middle, so it breaks down to be a much smaller package.
The serrated portion is common to most military E-tool (entrenching tool) designs and while I have never saw then very useful as a saw, they do help in cutting roots when digging a fighting position in a wooded area.
I wouldn't try to use it to saw down anything of "size", unless I absolutely had to.
I suppose it could be used to saw branches that are too big to be cut with a knife or broken by hand.
Yes, that site is a darn good site, I have bought all kinds of things from them over the last 15 years or so and have never been disappointed with the quality of what I got from them.
