LMAO !!! What do you suggest we do.... feed the animal with our feet ?? Thats Mad !! As if the dog wouldnt get mad if you stuck your feet or face in his food bowl i know i would be mad.
Love the Animal Cops work there the gr8est people on earth for doing what they do... I love all of them!
Anna marie, I appreciate your feed back, but I said nothing about feeding a dog with my feet. I think you misunderstood my message. I needed a chuckle anyway, I wasn't expecting that.Tee-Hee! Piddle
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i totally disagree with you, a good dog will allow you to take their food, their should be no aggression at all, the people who do the hand test need to repeat what they are doing to see if the dog will react at all, if a child,or anybody, puts thier hand in the dish and the dog doesn't react the first time he could react the second time and somebody will get hurt and you could be facing a law suit.
Originally posted by anna_marie_89: Im glad i gave you a good laugh.
I dont know how else they could test for the Food Agression. If they didnt use the Hand it would be a lot of money and expense for testing.
Keep Up the Good Work Animal Cops !!
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Anna im not disagreeing with you, i am disagreeing with the people who think the test is wrong and mean to the animal, sorry if you htought i was talking to you
Babybluebird, It is good that we all can post in a civil way, we all are intitled to our opinions I guess. Its good we all have one thing in common. We all care about animals! I only can go by how my own animals react to the hand ,so I made one,as best I could.I tried it on my pets. I never got to the food dish part. I walked into the room with it where my Hotdog doggie was and she hasn't come out from under the bed yet. I layed it in the floor with my Kitty's toys and when she finally realized it was there she jumped straight up in the air(she does that a lot now a days) My husband came in after work and I held it up and he said, Oh my God, you didn't make me another homemade back scratcher! I made him one Christmas that we all called the claw! Now the real test, my son came over and saw it on the kitchen table and said, Mom Im not even going to ask! I said you have seen that on TV before. He said Oh you mean on that horror movie. He said it didn't look any thing like the hand on the TV. He said the one on TV didn't have eyes, and it has more than two fingers. He also said that the one on TV has a stick on it not a wooden bat and duct tape. So I give up , if the real hand is as successful as you say thats great. Again we all have our own ideas and its good we can see that. In the name of animals! Piddle
TeeHee Piddleyour mad lol Where are you from ?? How old are you?? You sound like your really into animals like me I like the way we can all have conversations together its cool that we all have the same interest.
Write Back Love Anna x x x x x Kepp up the good work animal Cops .... your doing a gr8 Job !!!!!!!
Mod Kelly , I dropped my mouse before I could push the post button ,I really liked what I typed and I would like for you to post it for me . It is finished so Im hoping you can ! Thanks, your wishy washy poster! Piddle!
Keep Up the good work animal cops. You are doing such a gr8 job ... its jus a shame that there isnt more of you guys out there defending the animals and standing up against the abusers of animals.....I am behind you 110 % of the way....you are all amazing !!!
After reading through all of the posts, I have to say, you are all right. There are some dogs with food aggression who can be trained out of it. This takes time and resources - something which most shelters have in limited quantity. Yes, there are foster homes where they can send some of these dogs. However, most foster homes are also already at or near capacity and may not be able to devote the time necessary either.
It is also true that you need to be able to take away items which are not good for your dog to eat, or that he should not be chewing on in the first place. And with a "food aggressive" dog, this is either very dangerous or just plain not possible.
Most shelters have more than one test to determine if a dog is "food aggressive", because of time factors, however, they may not be able to show them on the TV show.
When a dog comes in who has been on the street or abused in a home, they have not hade the pleasure of being trained from puppyhood not to be aggressive and they are protecting what they consider theirs. These are the unfortunate ones. The hand is the safest way to do the food test. The reason they push is to see just how aggressive the dog is going to become. Some of them will growl and then back away. Those are the ones that can be "easily" re-trained. Those that don't back off are simply doing what is natural in "the wild". If a dog is food aggressive, there are usually other things wrong with their temperment - again due to time constraint, they may not be shown in the program. Just because a dog is put down, doesn't mean it was just because of food aggression. Without going behind the scenes and asking the shelter, we may never know.
One thing you also seem to be overlooking - several of you stated that if someone were to mess with your food, you'd aggressive also. The difference is you could tell someone to back off, the only way a dog has to show that is to growl or snap. If you told me to back off, I could explain to you why I was trying to take your food away - you can't do that with a dog.
I think that Food Agressive dogs can be turned around if the people at the MHS are willing to give time and devotion to re-habilitating the animals. It is a well known issue that many animals are food agressive and it is beginning to become more of an issue because more and more animals are being neglected so therefore more animals would be food argreesive as the one thing they may have had/may not have had in their life could have been food. This is an issue that needs addressing A.S.A.P.
Keep up the good work the Animal Cops...your doing gr8 !
I hesitate to question any of the methods of these poor people who spend every day trying to clean up the mess made by backyard breeders, accidental litters, puppy mills, and all the other people that are cranking out hundreds of thousands of animals that end up homeless because of people's refusal to spay and neuter their pets and/or provide a good home for the life of their pets. There simply aren't enough homes for even a fraction of the animals that are being born, so who am I to question the screening methods of the people who are getting this mess dumped on them every day? It is terribly sad to see a beautiful animal's life ended for something that is in no way their fault, but the blame lies with the irresponsible person that allows them to be born in the first place, then go to a home that would put them in the position to be aggressive. I pray for the day when these kind of choices will not be necessary, the day when there is a loving home for every animal that is born.
cinscope, I agree totally, the issue is not the workers themselves, but the policies that they have to work under to give any of these animals a little hope for a descent life.. Until the BYB's and the idiot folks that think thier animals can breed at will, and the ones that think they can control their animals reproductive instinct, by confinment with out alteration, FINALLY get it throught their thick no mind skulls, that spaying and nuetering is the only way.. Then we have to work with what we have available to keep the strays at a minimum.. Yes we need more volunteers, and the shelters and rescue groups need more money, but that will not happen in the near future it is looking like... Until then EDUCATION and awareness is the only way to get the point across. Government officials get elected or re-elected every couple of years, get a group together to find out the candidates stand on these issues, and use your vote to make the change. If you have a nieghbor that has a dog in heat kindly ask them what they think they are they are accomplishing by not spaying and neutering. The dog weather it be a fmale or a male, will be much healthier and comfortable and desease free it they have it done. They, well, You guys know the results I do not have to go through them again... Just use your head, heart and knowledge to educate all...
I unfortunately, disagree - I don't think the dog was pushed too far...and I think the hand is a GREAT tool. How else are you going to know if the dog is food aggressive or not? He was in a new enviornment, but it's not like it was his first day there...he had been there for weeks...it was home to him by then and he was comfortable with her and seemed to love her. Just think of what he may have done to someone that he didn't like. True she did it over and over again - BUT, so would a child....even though the parents are suppose to be watching the child constantly, we all know that that is impossible...just think of what he could have done to a child, let alone an adult. Dogs should NOT be food aggressive...the aggression just continues to grow and grow...first it's his food, then his toy, then the couch, then the living room,,,it just grows and grows. I think the hand is a great tool and I'm glad they use it. It is sad that they had to put that dog down and others like him, but there are more great dogs out there that ARE NOT aggressive at all and they need a family and the love and care that he was getting.
I have had 2 dogs that were food aggressive. I adopted these dogs when there was no hand. No kids in the house, I needed a dog to stay with me for Love and Protection. I wanted it to shredd any one that would try to help themselves to me or what little I had. As much as I loved my dogs, they had a job to do and I did to. I didn't take any nonsense. I gave them respect and I expected the same. I demanded the same.I treated them gently and I would go to the ends of the earth to have them back again. They were no doubt the best thing that could have happened to me. I am having a hard time holding it together now, I got them home and the first thing I did was to feed us all.I had never had a problem with the feeding thing with any dog Ive had. Untill I got all kinds of goodys, put them on a tray brought the dogs in made them lay down and stay. I was firm after pushing their butt down 100 times! Then I was going to reward with food from my hand to their mouths. It would have been nice to know but it would not have made any difference to me I had already decided I was in this for the long haul. I took out some cheese and one dog looked at the other, then I saw teethe in a light I have never seen. Well I was so mad, I was hurt also and scared. My first instint was to hollar as loud as I could. I did not have that planned it just came out like ten bolts of lightening.It was so loud they sat down and gave me their full attention. I was shaking and so were they. It was almost like I was the third animal there yet I was superior in their mind. Anyway Im just saying ,I want no harm to come to any child so I don't reccomend any one with children having a food aggressive dog, but I do think there is hope for them if those that felt somewhat like I did can find it in their hearts to work with the dog. Im sure some are worse than others and hollering at them might get their heads bit off so you must be carefull! And good luck and God Bless you for loveing his furry babys. Piddle
I see where you are coming from but I think it is best cause what if the dog shows food aggression with the new owner. You do not know who is going to adopt the dog. You do not know the parenting ways of the owner. Weither the owner might hit the dog or worse torture it. It is also good for the community cause what if the owner is taking the dog for a walk and a passer by gets bit. They are just protecting the cummunity and it is the best thing to do. It mostly happens to pitbulls and mostly to the ones that fight. Rotwilders have that kind of instinct to.
well yeah i agree they pushed the dog a little far, they should just adopt it into a no kid home, but think of this, if the dog was outside like in a fence and a little kid walks by and gave it some food, it could bite the kids hand off the kid is small enough. i think they should have put it into a foster home and improve the dogs behavior but thats just my opinion.
That is what this is about, opinions. It is a shame that the dogs that are agressive in any way is usually made this way by the hand of a human, we can't change that! You know I am not a very religeous person, but I have felt so helpless before, knowing I can't change the situation and I just don't think there is too many more things on this earth that can hurt me as much emotionally than the heart of an animal being broken by someone it trusts. A Great creation for us to love, care for and be protected by. The only thing an animal can be blamed for is loving and trusting too much as it is slowly being turned into a weapon of the highest caliber. You must look into the eyes of a dog that is so confused by his love of life and the horror of agression he is not born with, That is introduced to him by the hate and sick hunger of man to over power and destroy a perfect heart, mind,and gentle soul of a dog. I can't tell any one to do what I do, but I can tell you I have been known to cry my eyes out while on my knees with my hands folded and my heart breaking for help so I may make a difference. If there was an easy way we would not be here talking about forcing such a hidius test on an animal that is probably starving and has had enough of humans treating him like their own personal living breathing beating post. We can sit here all day talking about the hand, Why not stretch our minds a bit further and attempt to find an alternative. I just don't see how agression can be an answer to agression, and that is what the hand represents to me. Piddle
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Im glad i gave you a good laugh.
I think that Food Agressive dogs can be turned around if the people at the MHS are willing to give time and devotion to re-habilitating the animals.
