Its so sad. People raise them to fight other dogs so they can have money! Then BREED THEM and train there puppies. Its Gross and rotten. And so many awful people do it. Anybody else hate this as much as me?

Well ya got a dog fighter hater here pilgrim.
We have to hope in some way this will change in time and hope all of our hopes will be heard. Then give thanks for the dog owners that truly love their dogs and can feel the love they recieve from their pet. For some it is
impossible to share the pain they are inflickting upon the animals they are using to make money. There are actually people that can cheer on a fight and find it possible to sleep at night. I wonder if they would enjoy being thrown in a ring and forced to fight to the death. Certainly something was left out when they were created, If only we could change it, If only dogs had the power to act on their pain, turn the tables and give their owners a taste of what it like to bare the pain of their own ignorance. These people can't prevent us using our heart and what ever power is ruling
our life, may it work in our lives so that we in some way help by speaking our minds and feeling the sorrow of these loving creatures
we were so lucky to love and enjoy and treat as kind as they want to treat us,as kind as they do
treat us. Thanks for showing me one other heart
that cares! Piddle

I DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT IS VERY SAD. THAT MAKES ME VERY ANGRY.

I would definatly like to see how they like fighting. I just cant believe it even comes into question when it is your dogs happiness or money. The answer is SO obvious to anybody who has ANY sence! Then they breed them and train the pups to hurt others its awul!

You know there are just some things in life that
so needs changing. Why are humans the maker of animals that go from being a sweet puppy to a blood thirsty beast. Guess what, the dogs don't want to fight. They want to live and please a gentle and loving owner. Anyone that deliberately forces any living and breathing
being to cause pain,kill,destroy itself and others had to have been put on this earth by mistake. For the life of me, I can't think of any reason why one could be so cruel and heartless. When I am on my knees at the end of the evening I ask for peace and happiness for all,but I can't include these awfull people in
my thoughts ,kindly or any other way, I wonder if I am the only one that feels this way.
Piddle

I agree. And who pays the price with their lives, the dogs. There is something very sick about a human that gets joy in watching these poor dogs tearing each other to shreds. They are the same type of humans that would get joy doing the same to humans.

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I agree. And who pays the price with their lives, the dogs. There is something very sick about a human that gets joy in watching these poor dogs tearing each other to shreds. They are the same type of humans that would get joy doing the same to humans.

melodramtic to call them "sick' for not knowing their culture and traditions. Are Spanish and Mexican people 'sick' for enjoying a bull fight?

"Are Spanish and Mexican people 'sick' for enjoying a bull fight?"

In a word yes! I think we covered that "customs" and "traditions" topic. Hopefully people evolve from barbaric traditions. Since we had a culture and tradition of slavery, that makes in OK?

The English, after centuries of fox hunting finally came to their senses and banned it.

I gather from your comments you approve of dog fighting because someone might claim it at as a tradition!?

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Anyone that deliberately forces any living and breathing being to cause pain, kill, destroy itself and others had to have been put on this earth by mistake.

And....

"Certainly something was left out when they were created, If only we could change it, If only dogs had the power to act on their pain, turn the tables and give their owners a taste of what it like to bare the pain of their own ignorance."

Very well put Piddle but as I said above, it would be at the cost of the dog's life, not the owners.

The key word Kathleen is "sick" How can anybody imply that someone is 'sick' because of their upbringing? That is unacceptable.

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I gather from your comments you approve of dog fighting because someone might claim it at as a tradition!?

Why would you gather that? Where did I imply that or any form of that?

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How can anybody imply that someone is 'sick' because of their upbringing?

I'm sorry, I didn't realize that people were "brought up" to bask in the joy of dog fighting.

You seem to be twisting things around. Go up about 3 messages and you will see I'm specific to bull fighting.

"Why would you gather that? Where did I imply that or any form of that?"

My comment:

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There is something very sick about a human that gets joy in watching these poor dogs tearing each other to shreds.

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melodramtic to call them "sick' for not knowing their culture and traditions][QUOTE]

I'm talking "dog fighting" that is the topic.
You brought up bull fighting.

same thing, bull fighting just a different form of analygy, If one is brought up to not know any different, then couldn't really call them 'sick,' implying mental imbalanced.

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I don't think most parents of dog fighters teach this as an acceptable "tradition."

Inspite of my not so positive opinion of mankind in general, I don't think the lust for "bloodshed" is the "norm." Therefore, those who get joy out of such a thing, are "sick."

To "make excuses" for them saying they were brought up this way or it's just "tradition" or "custom," is unacceptable. I suppose you would argue the same for a brutal murderer of humans-oh he was just raised that way so we can't blame him for his actions.

Take your pick.

Sociopath...
One who is affected with a personality disorder marked by antisocial behavior.


Psychopath...
A person with an antisocial personality disorder, manifested in aggressive, perverted, criminal, or amoral behavior without empathy or remorse

Wow! I wasn't expecting all that. I see any one that can stand like a man or a woman and get excited and yes even lustfull over looking into these animals eyes and actually get a charge out of it. Bullfighting or any other blood sport
And ofcourse it is at the expence of the animal rather than the owner in any case. I am familiar with the word sociopathic, as I use to try to figure out some of the behaviors of the
taking of little children and cutting them up.
It hit me so hard I had to talk with someone.
I will never understand sick or not sick or crazy, what ever, It hurts me to the point of crying and I mean sobbing, Its unbearable to know I can do anything to stop it. I don't care about culture or how someone is raised, anyone that makes excuses for these things, defends them or participates in any and all blood sports should be strapped on the back of a bull
while it is being stabbed to death and get a birds eye view of what is being viewed. The sounds of pain is one of the most horrid of sounds. They must be begging to die to end the
confusion and excrusiating pain as it is so unfairly treated. How can the cry of dogs and the sight of torn flesh and blood please anyone?
I say it is because the pleasure seekers are no better than the murders themselves. I don't know if I have come to the decition that these
people are sick or are they just mean, hatefull
unremorsefull. Why I would go as far as saying
people that get a charge out of this would probably tie their toddlers together and force them to fight then feast on what is left of them. Kathleenk9 I must say you seem more than I give you credit for, Its funny how some can feel the pain, hear the pain and see the pain of these helpless animals. It hurts more to feel that mysery but its for them and they are worth every tear I have ever shed for them.
Piddle

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To "make excuses" for them saying they were brought up this way or it's just "tradition" or "custom," is unacceptable. I suppose you would argue the same for a brutal murderer of humans-oh he was just raised that way so we can't blame him for his actions.

Yes, thank you well said for me,. That's exactly what I mean. You cannot dictate other's morals or values.