If only there were more people in this world like Michelle and Jim Bob, we would definetly have a happier world. They do not impose their traditions or faith or beliefs on anyone, they dont pass judgements and from what I have seen and read, yes Im reading their book, their door is always open for everybody.

They are the first ones to say they are not perfect and they are always learning on the way, arent we all? One thing I can say is that they have taught me so much, I am as mainstream as it gets, and even though I follow my own doctrine and do not go to church its so clear to me that the Duggars carry God in their hearts. And thats what LOVE is all about. It is not about religion but the person you are inside.

I am a mother of teenagers and a 6year old boy, and yes, sometimes i just wish I could cancel the cable and only watch educational videos. Sometimes I wish I could hide their i pods to keep them from listening all those songs that talk about sex and violence, pick their friends myself according to my standards. But the truth is you have to start from birth and homeschool and be involved with those of the same values and traditions asyou, because otherwise your kids will rebel.

So far I think Ihave done a decent job and Im not naive to think that they are not exposed to alcohol drugs and sex, but I trust they will gather all that we taught me throught the years and make good judgments for themselves.Like Michelle says, be content with what you have, and I am.

Why dont we let all bad criticism go away, just because they are different in size and traditions doesnt mean they are crazy or addicted to giving birth. Somebody commented on the way Michelle was feeding her baby, from what I could observe they all (all 19)seem to be very healthy and happy, so she must be doing something right people!

I think Michelle and Jim Bob are true soulmates that came to this Earth with a mission, and they are without a doubt fullfilling it!

Patricia

I don't wear rose-colored glasses and I won't uphold this family as the poster family for Christian values. The world would be so incredibly overcrowded if everyone were like Jim Bob & Michelle. How anyone can say that we need more like them is mind-blowing. The world does not need more people! When a family cannot take care of the kids they have without extorting help from their older kids, then that is too many kids. The older kids are NOT going to say anything against their way of life because they don't know any better and also because they likely don't have the guts to tell Mom & Dad, "look, enough is enough". The Duggar's must NOT be content for what they have or they would be doing something to prevent more pregnancies from happening. At the very least, they would be practicing the rhythm method but Jim Bob isn't willing to do that, now is he? Talk about selfish behavior. It sickens me to read about people wishing that there were more people like the Duggar's in the world.

I respectfully disagree. I have done a little research on supersized families, and the long-term results are often not good - horrible alcoholism, dysfunctional parents/children, many of these kids grow up to NOT want to have children, etc.

Just look at how these girls are treated - this isn't the 1930s. Do you still want to be able to vote ? I think the Duggars are taking giant leaps backwards when it comes to treatment of girls, and their general views on education.

Patricia

You can cancel their cable you pay for it..I did and the one I had the biggest objection to was my husband who is a TV addict. My kids do not own Ipods they do own MP3's but can only burn from music we have. Many people are impressed with the things my kids have been exposed to. We dont forbid them from listening to certain things but we educate them about the dangers of things. Rap music is a nono n when mom is around as it drives me nuts but my kids have realized on their own it breeds discontent and violent feelings and irritation just by the sounds and rhythms.

I am amazed at how many people feel that a child learnign adult skills as a constant so its becomes habit is so bad. I find the infantilization of industrial societes lead to the need to be entertained constantly. Yes there are some bad things about the Duggars but there are good things too

[quote by chicagochris3]I respectfully disagree. I have done a little research on supersized families, and the long-term results are often not good - horrible alcoholism, dysfunctional parents/children, many of these kids grow up to NOT want to have children, etc.

Just look at how these girls are treated - this isn't the 1930s. Do you still want to be able to vote ? I think the Duggars are taking giant leaps backwards when it comes to treatment of girls, and their general views on education.[/quote]

I agree with you.

I am from a super-sized family. "Alcoholic" can describe many members of my family.

I remember (years ago) when I first started going to Alanon I was so happy that I had found out about the "cure" for the alcoholics in my family. I called them and told them (rehab and AA) and you know everyone hung up on me. Finally my Pastor brother called me and said my phone calls were making the "Alcoholics" in the family mad. So I quit.

Now I watch Intervention on Mondays and it helps me a lot.

My Mother was very dysfuncianal, and my Father (an Alcoholic himself) is very dysfunctional. When my Dad would come home after a "bender" we all would run and hide and cover our ears.

I only had one child. I was the eldest of the girls and felt I had already raised enough children and I could handle one very well and do a really good job. I tried with all my heart to be the best parent I could be. My daughter never had to run and hid once.

I'm not sure what the reasoning is in saying that the size of a family contributes to alcoholism or dysfunctional parenting.
(although I have heard/understand why some might choose to not have children if they felt like they'd already done that as a young person)


I think famiiles are unique and each parent brings something different to the table so that no two familes are alike.
In a household where neither parent drinks or physically abuses their children, I would think that the odds of those children growing to adults that would do those things is LESS than a child growing up in a household (regardless of size) in which they saw those behaviors in their parents.

Without having seen the "research" to determine if those involved came from the lifestyle of the Duggars (and not just large number of children) I am leary of accepting it as fact.

um wome recieved the right to vote thru the 19 amendment which was in 1920. By the 30's they'd been voting a while. I myself am a little tiredof the belittling of women by women. If a woman wants to SAH why not if she wants to go out and work why not?I only thignk children should be raised by their PARENTS who have a vested interest in how they turn out. If they cannot be bothered to raise them or even spend time with them then DON"T HAVE CHILDREN!

1989kb I totally agree and feel that your comments are the most balanced on this board.

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Originally posted by Celtic Morla:
um wome recieved the right to vote thru the 19 amendment which was in 1920. By the 30's they'd been voting a while. I myself am a little tiredof the belittling of women by women. If a woman wants to SAH why not if she wants to go out and work why not?I only thignk children should be raised by their PARENTS who have a vested interest in how they turn out. If they cannot be bothered to raise them or even spend time with them then DON"T HAVE CHILDREN!

Celtic - your comments are laughable at best and insulting at worst.

You are tired of the belittling yet the next thing out of your mouth is belitting.

There are parents that work because if they didn't their families would not eat. There are parents that work so they can have good insurance for a special needs child and not have to be on govt assistance. There are parents that work because they believe that they should not take a hand out if they are healthy and able to work.

How sad for you that you think that the children of working parents are any less loved or cared for than those that don't work.

Also - not one single person here has EVER belittled a working mother except for Chris and now yourself. All of the rest of us believe that parents should give all they can to their own children and do the best they can for their children. We belittle the Duggar definition of parenting because it isn't anywhere close to doing they best they can.

You blast working mothers for not giving the time they "should" to their children. How about a woman who pops out babies so fast that the older ones have to raise them???

Insulting and sad.

Laura

How about parents who have no clue what thewur kids are doing? Dropping them off at the mall where they then make out they are older to men is not so great either. Making fun of someone's religion is belittling because religion is a choice. Assuming you know everything about someone because they are on a TV is belittling. If you will note I said "If they cannot be bothered to raise them or even spend time with them then DON"T HAVE CHILDREN!" I see this everyday. I am a working mother who owns her business so my kids cna be with me. I know women who work night shifts at the grocery store to be with their kids. I know a lot of people who work who find out I homeschool and say to me "Gosh if I had to spend that uch time with my kids I'd shoot myself" Mind you those kids have everyhtign and appreciate nothing. I am not belittling people I am stating that if you can't be bothered to spend time with your kids or raise them to be decent people don't have them!

I also have a lot of friends who have been dumped by MEN who live in absolute poverty because our system beleives these jerks dont have a job yet have a lot of 'stuff' and they get no money from the father of their kids and they have to work but they do not ignore their kids when they coem home. I am sure you would think my household strange because we dont have TV but that is a personal CHOICE, smae with my son dancing, and my daughter Gosh forbid moved out at 20 with a job, workign on a college education, a car and paying her way, not living at home expecting us to do for her. And many people who meet her are surprised at her age because she ACTS like an ADULT compared to other people she works with. Don't assume anything. Just because people do not believe in what you do makes it wrong. Thats just belittling their choices based on their lives.

That isn't whay your first statement said. You said you are tired of women putting down other women and then you bashed working mothers.

You weren't talking about poor parents. There are plenty of those as well. You are backtracking now to try to show that you are not belittling working mothers.

You certainly have choices you can make about your own life as do the Duggar family and they have chosen to be on television. Why are they on TV? To make money is the obvious answer to me but it isn't their answer. Their answer is about spreading the goodness of their lives and sharing it.

I get that you support the Duggars. I am happy you have that choice. What you aren't getting is that they chose to put themselves on television to share their lives and we watch to compare and contrast with our lives and what we think is right and wrong. That is the whole reason the show exists.

If you don't have television - why are you even on here? Oh wait - right...to belittle those who don't agree with the Duggars and working mothers.

No one here has said they know everything. We often say that we wish we could see more of "X". We can only discuss what we are shown and what appears to be true based on logic and intelligence that most here seem to possess.

Your comments about poor parenting skills are true. There are bad parents. I consider the Duggars to be bad parents. If it is because of their religious beliefs or for some other reason, I don't really care. But when you have so many children that the older ones take care of the younger ones, that none seem to be making a success outside of the bubble of the Duggar compound, that their education, language and social skills seems to be terribly lacking, that there is poor care shown to the little ones because 15 year old girls are NOT PARENTS, then you are also talking about bad parenting to me.

This board is for opinions. You share yours and I share mine. HOW you share them shows what kind of a person you are.

Laura

Firs tof all my Name is Morla. Celtic is not a name it is a background. I did not belittle working mothers I said if a owman wants to SAH why not if a woman wants to work WHY NOT? And I dont think the bais of this country was freedom from tyranny of the sort the British were leveling on this country and the right to be represented on their own behalf. If it was about not hurting others they would not have kept slaves but then again they thought they were right about that till a later Amendment. The founding fathers tried to make personal choice a viable option. And yes sometimes they were hypocritical too. Human nature I guess. It's very hard to express oneself on the 'Net when people cannot get the whole gist or cannot read between the lines as they can when they know someone.Offronted was a SP? but the meaning of Affronted is the case in which I meant it was to be insulted or confused.

Morla - I certainly understand typos! I have an average vocabulary, so thought it was a word I was not familar with.

We all make mistakes. I also agree it is human nature to make those mistakes and to protect oneself. We are talking about two different times in American history. I was thinking more of the first settlers who left their country in search of a place where they could practice their religion in peace. (of course - as Patten pointed out - the first thing they did was to try to tame those heathen indians and stop their religiou practices).

Even if that isn't what the country was based on then it IS what the country stands for today in my eyes. We goof up, stumble, falter, make bad decisions and stick our noses in where they don't belong both here and abroad, but ultimately, if you are not harming others then you are free to do as you wish.

Again, I feel like the Duggars are harming for reasons I mentioned in the other thread. To me that makes what they do unacceptable.

I have also mentioned many times that there are some qualities that they possess that we all could use more of. They are not evil people, but even the worst enemies we have are often people who are doing what they are doing based on religious beliefs. There are tyrants who want power and money, but history is full of people who did what they did because of religious beliefs.

Definately doesn't make it right and I would oppose them too.

LLL

True kids run wild get spoiled with Ipods but hese so called evils of the world are no excuse to live like the Diggars. The families on reality TV are the spoiled ones. They live in nice houses take trips, drive nice cars. Most like myself would ove these luxuries. I agree ilovell, some parents must work to put food on the table. Why should they be belittled? It is not selfish at all when you ar edoing the best for the family. Extreme religious groups are often intolerable of lifestyle choices. No the world would not be happier.

I read a report this morning on what some psychiatrists have said about kids being on reality TV. (it was related particularly to what the "balloon boy's" parents have done to their kids). And they felt that putting kids on reality TV is exploitation of kids. No matter what you are basing your reason for having a reality TV show. The kids are still being exploited.

But hey, what would a psychiatrist know??

There was a similar report on CNN this morning by Carol Costello. The psychologist pointed out that the parents of children on reality TV all have an agenda of one type or another. That agenda is not the safety and welfare of their own children.

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Originally posted by TXgoatmama:
There was a similar report on CNN this morning by Carol Costello. The psychologist pointed out that the parents of children on reality TV all have an agenda of one type or another. That agenda is not the safety and welfare of their own children.

Of course it isn't. How could putting your children on display for all to see be safe or in the children's best interests. It can't. I would be terrified to have perfect strangers be able to recognize and know so much about my children.

If they truly believed that children were God's precious gifts:

1. They wouldn't be risking serious health issues by having so many and by Michelle being pregnant at a time when many women are starting menopause.

2. They wouldn't have so many children that they cannot take care of without help (older children and TLC).

3. They wouldn't have so many children that they canno monitor and correct their behavior themselves, not depending on older children to do it for them.

4. They wouldn't display their children for all to see which, no doubt, puts them at a higher risk when out in public - like at the airport or in a big city like New York.

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Originally posted by mitsy12:
The world does not need more people!

Good thing your parents didn't feel like that huh !!

Judge not lest you be judged.

Celtic -- You are right on and NO you werent attacking working women.

My parents thought 2 was enough and it is in today's society when it costs so much to raise & educate a child.

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Originally posted by mitsy12:
My parents thought 2 was enough and it is in today's society when it costs so much to raise & educate a child.

They are DEBT FREE!!! Have been for years prior to TLC.

And the tree hugging arguments about the environment don't mean anything to me.

mom9900, do you not think the environment is important? We all have to live on the planet, after all. That sort of flippant comment seems a little...selfish?

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Originally posted by bustystclair:
mom9900, do you not think the environment is important? We all have to live on the planet, after all. That sort of flippant comment seems a little...selfish?

Oh, it's more than just a little selfish, but there a folks out there that think that the Bible gives them leave to do whatever they want.

More than once, we have seen the Duggars cut down dead trees, but never have we seen them plant one. God gave us this earth to use and benefit from, but part of that is the responsibility that the earth support our children and children's children. Wouldn't it be nice if the Duggars planted more trees on the property? Wouldn't it be nice if they did something for wild animals, instead of feeding bagels to captive animals? It seems like the Christian thing to do.

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Originally posted by th77046:
More than once, we have seen the Duggars cut down dead trees, but never have we seen them plant one. God gave us this earth to use and benefit from, but part of that is the responsibility that the earth support our children and children's children. Wouldn't it be nice if the Duggars planted more trees on the property? Wouldn't it be nice if they did something for wild animals, instead of feeding bagels to captive animals? It seems like the Christian thing to do.

And have you ever thought that the editors edit things this way for a reason?

They cut them down and burn the wood (conserving energy). Isn't that "green"??

All I'm saying is that it would be a positive gesture to show the family doing something for the environment (and, please, I just said the word "environment" and am not interested in starting a debate about global warming).

And IMO they do. I don't think it needs to be overstated like when Jon & Kate did the Renavation Nation and went "green". I think they are doing just fine.

Wow mom9900, you seem angry. And I do think it's selfish - and very shortsighted - not to at least do small things, like use and wash a real plate and not use one styrofoam plate that will take 1,000 year to break down. It's easy, you know. See, there's soap and water, and you mix the two together and rub it on the plate! Not very hard. Oh, don't forget to rinse.

My point is that little things can make a difference. To blatantly say that you don't give a *bleep* for the planet, and to refuse any responsibility for it's stewardship, well, it's a little sickening to me. It's people with attitudes like yours that cause my faith in humanity to wither away a little bit every day.

But maybe you're a troll and I'm falling right into your trap. D'oh!

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Originally posted by bustystclair:
Wow mom9900, you seem angry. And I do think it's selfish - and very shortsighted - not to at least do small things, like use and wash a real plate and not use one styrofoam plate that will take 1,000 year to break down. It's easy, you know. See, there's soap and water, and you mix the two together and rub it on the plate! Not very hard. Oh, don't forget to rinse.

My point is that little things can make a difference. To blatantly say that you don't give a *bleep* for the planet, and to refuse any responsibility for it's stewardship, well, it's a little sickening to me. It's people with attitudes like yours that cause my faith in humanity to wither away a little bit every day.

Well the tenor of your posts are sickening to me as well so we are even. I don't live my live in fear of the planet. I don't wrap myself in a green blanket and I won't apologize for that.

Anger? My anger is disgust for the way people come here and bash and string up people who have done nothing to you.

WOW Indeed !

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Originally posted by bustystclair:
But maybe you're a troll and I'm falling right into your trap. D'oh!

Maybe I'm a troll?? Paranoid much?

No I'm a wife and mom of 2 BEAUTIFUL children and am very involved in my church and am a supporter of the Duggar family and am here to defend them when they are attacked for being who they are.

It must be pure joy to go to your church. I rest my case.

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Originally posted by bustystclair:
Wow mom9900, you seem angry. And I do think it's selfish - and very shortsighted - not to at least do small things, like use and wash a real plate and not use one styrofoam plate that will take 1,000 year to break down. It's easy, you know. See, there's soap and water, and you mix the two together and rub it on the plate! Not very hard. Oh, don't forget to rinse.

My point is that little things can make a difference. To blatantly say that you don't give a *bleep* for the planet, and to refuse any responsibility for it's stewardship, well, it's a little sickening to me. It's people with attitudes like yours that cause my faith in humanity to wither away a little bit every day.

They don't even need to spend time washing each dish, they were provided commercial dishwashers when TLC finished that house for them. It cleans the dishes in like 10 minutes, just like dishwashers in restaurants. All they have to do is load it and turn it on.

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Originally posted by demor:
It must be pure joy to go to your church. I rest my case.

Believe me it is. I am very active in our choir, AWANA program, and children's ministry and it is a HUGE part of my life. That and being the mother to the 2 lights of my life. That is who I am and what makes my life full of so much joy.

I love how you all make your little judgments about not only the Duggars but other posters when you know NOTHING about us.

You take 30 minutes a week of the Duggars and posts on a forum and make judgments about who we are without one iota of knowledge to base it upon.

Yes I have some disgust in my posts re: people launching attacks on my fellow Christian brothers and sisters who have done NOTHING to you. I would feel the same about any person being outright attacked about EVERY little thing they do (not to mention all of the editing that makes it all look much worse than it is.)

Next time you want to judge someone, look in the mirror.

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Originally posted by bustystclair:
But maybe you're a troll and I'm falling right into your trap. D'oh!

That's why I've aready put her on ignore, along with her friend Chris.

Good 4 U. But if I'm on ignore why are U still going on an on about me. Hmmmm..... And how do you even know about my posts? Hmmmmm

Pure joy indeed

"Yes I'm so DRAT HAPPY. You don't believe me? Well I'm here to tell you that my life IS FULL OF JOY!! I'm ABSOLUTELY THRILLED with ALL THE JOY IN MY LIFE. I'm the HAPPIEST most JOYFUL PERSON! It's TRUE gosh drat it!!!"

Your tone and words don't match mom9900. Do you need a hug?

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Originally posted by bustystclair:
Pure joy indeed

"Yes I'm so DRAT HAPPY. You don't believe me? Well I'm here to tell you that my life IS FULL OF JOY!! I'm ABSOLUTELY THRILLED with ALL THE JOY IN MY LIFE. I'm the HAPPIEST most JOYFUL PERSON! It's TRUE gosh drat it!!!"

Your tone and words don't match mom9900. Do you need a hug?

Tone is subjective. It depends on what side you happen to sit on.

If you don't care for my tone I am sorry. I don't care for alot I have heard on these boards. But hey, everybody see things differently.

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Originally posted by mom9900:
Believe me it is. I am very active in our choir, AWANA program, and children's ministry and it is a HUGE part of my life. That and being the mother to the 2 lights of my life. That is who I am and what makes my life full of so much joy.

I love how you all make your little judgments about not only the Duggars but other posters when you know NOTHING about us.

You take 30 minutes a week of the Duggars and posts on a forum and make judgments about who we are without one iota of knowledge to base it upon.

Yes I have some disgust in my posts re: people launching attacks on my fellow Christian brothers and sisters who have done NOTHING to you. I would feel the same about any person being outright attacked about EVERY little thing they do (not to mention all of the editing that makes it all look much worse than it is.)

Next time you want to judge someone, look in the mirror.

I think you're the one who needs to look in the mirror. If you are so darned happy and joyful why the hateful tone in every one of your posts? If you read back at most of mine you would see that I'm not a Duggar hater. What I do hate is holier than thou people who come on here spewing hateful attacks against people they don't even know to boost their self esteem from whatever unhappiness there is in their life that makes them so bitter. The Duggars put themselves on t.v. If they wanted to they could stop this forum without stopping the show. TLC trolls these boards and makes decisions about what to put on there based on our conversations. For most of us this is more of a social outlet than any real opinion one way or the other about the show. We share life experiences and talk to one another.

Get off your high horse or go away. If you have something constructive to add to the conversation then by all means stick around but stop spewing the hate.

mom9900, You really need to be nicer to people in this forum.

i think mom9900 that most folk's defintions of Christianity are different than the Duggars rigid view. That is the reason for the tone of some posts on here. As far as the Duggars being who they are I think they have become something else like the rest of reality families. If someone's beliefs are so important to them why change to make a few quick bucks? They preach no or little TV and appear on TV JB and mIchelle both lived anormal teenage life and forbid their kids to do so. Some find it hypocritical. It is making observations not judgements

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Originally posted by demor:

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Originally posted by mom9900:
Believe me it is. I am very active in our choir, AWANA program, and children's ministry and it is a HUGE part of my life. That and being the mother to the 2 lights of my life. That is who I am and what makes my life full of so much joy.

I love how you all make your little judgments about not only the Duggars but other posters when you know NOTHING about us.

You take 30 minutes a week of the Duggars and posts on a forum and make judgments about who we are without one iota of knowledge to base it upon.

Yes I have some disgust in my posts re: people launching attacks on my fellow Christian brothers and sisters who have done NOTHING to you. I would feel the same about any person being outright attacked about EVERY little thing they do (not to mention all of the editing that makes it all look much worse than it is.)

Next time you want to judge someone, look in the mirror.

I think you're the one who needs to look in the mirror. If you are so darned happy and joyful why the hateful tone in every one of your posts? If you read back at most of mine you would see that I'm not a Duggar hater. What I do hate is holier than thou people who come on here spewing hateful attacks against people they don't even know to boost their self esteem from whatever unhappiness there is in their life that makes them so bitter. The Duggars put themselves on t.v. If they wanted to they could stop this forum without stopping the show. TLC trolls these boards and makes decisions about what to put on there based on our conversations. For most of us this is more of a social outlet than any real opinion one way or the other about the show. We share life experiences and talk to one another.

Get off your high horse or go away. If you have something constructive to add to the conversation then by all means stick around but stop spewing the hate.

I am not spewing hate but if that is how YOU choose to see it by all means go right on ahead. And as far as leaving, nah. I have JUST as much right to be here as you do.

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Originally posted by cyndeecamden:
mom9900, You really need to be nicer to people in this forum.

And the same goes for other posters, and no I don't mean you.

Ugh it makes me so mad that some of you people on this board keep making excuses for the Duggars and the environment. I plant two trees every year with my son. We love giving back to the earth. I don't understand why some of you people on this board and the Duggar clan do not respect the earth. I RARELY ever use paper plates either and I have a small family of 3. The duggars use them constantly and that is such a waste.

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Originally posted by cyndeecamden:
mom9900, You really need to be nicer to people in this forum.

She doesn't act like much of a Christian.

I agree mango. I know it's been discussed in other threads, but it only takes a few small things (well, for now I guess) to make a difference. I also find it distressing that, while many people agree that we need to be better stewards of our planet, a vocal minority make a big fuss and label us "liberal tree huggers" or some such.

Not saying I wouldn't hug a tree, mind you, but it would have to have a gift card for Nordstrom nailed to it!

EXACTLY! I don't understand why being a "tree hugger" is such a bad thing. God gave us this earth and we have to respect and protect it. I think that if some of these Duggar supporters feel that the Duggars are not wasteful and not doing anything wrong, they can go live on another planet with the Duggar fam! SAVE OUR PLANET!

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Originally posted by Mango2009:
EXACTLY! I don't understand why being a "tree hugger" is such a bad thing. God gave us this earth and we have to respect and protect it. I think that if some of these Duggar supporters feel that the Duggars are not wasteful and not doing anything wrong, they can go live on another planet with the Duggar fam! SAVE OUR PLANET!

It could be argued that by being environmentally responsible that you're loving your neighbor. Being selfish and saying "I don't care, I don't want to be green, bring on the styrofoam!) is saying that you don't care about your neighbors, your kids, and your community. Hey, pollution doesn't impact me, so it's ok. My neighbors? Yeah, they don't matter either.

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Originally posted by Mango2009:
Ugh it makes me so mad that some of you people on this board keep making excuses for the Duggars and the environment. I plant two trees every year with my son. We love giving back to the earth. I don't understand why some of you people on this board and the Duggar clan do not respect the earth. I RARELY ever use paper plates either and I have a small family of 3. The duggars use them constantly and that is such a waste.

I don't worship the Earth. I worship the Creator of the Earth. One day this Earth will be gone. I do not begrudge you doing whatever it is you want to re: the Earth and "going green" but I won't be bullied by you or anybody else about living my life the way I so choose.

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Originally posted by mom9900:
I don't worship the Earth. I worship the Creator of the Earth. One day this Earth will be gone. I do not begrudge you doing whatever it is you want to re: the Earth and "going green" but I won't be bullied by you or anybody else about living my life the way I so choose.

Gee Your comment inspires such warm fuzzy loving feelings in me when I read it.

Does your god aprove of such constant negativity?

ANd I certianly dont think someone is bullying you by makeing a connection between being envioronmentaly friendly, and it being comparable to loving ones neighbor.