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Registered: 06-11-08
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my top 5 guns are
1 mobile gatling gun
i love this gun it spits out 3000 bullets fast
i put this on my half track during my terrorist sweeps and they pile up
2 .45 mag semi auto revolver
way better then the lever version and it holds 10 rounds not 6 or 8 i blasted insurgents like crazy with this bad boy
3 ak47 quiet deadly , light and relodes fast nuff said

4 100 round tompson
everyone knows the 20 round version sucks(depletes 2 easy)i level wodden buildings eaisly

5 ak47 shotgun moule (refered 2 as ak48)
punches through tank armor shreds concrete/brick walls its 5th place hevier then a 47 louder HUGE RECOIL= not good to carry around alot

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Registered: 04-18-09
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This is my list of rifles so please comment

1. M1 Garand: this gun changed the way wars were fought! Bolt action rifles soon fell out of use partly because of this rifle. In the Pacific and in Europe the bolt action arasaka rifle and the Mauser were out gunned. Though this fell out of use because America wanted a fully-automatic rifle.

2. Mauser 98k: A great rifle shaped most bolt action rifles of its day! Lasted over 40 years of service, though changed to a smaller form.

3. M14: This is a great gun though it has some limited use it is a great rifle MUCH better then the M16 though you can't carry as much ammo. I served with this rifle. My choice, M14 is clearly the better than the m16 more accurate not as good mag capacity but all around a very good rifle.

4. M1903 Springfield: This gun was very accurate and good fps it had a slower rate of fire then some others it still picked off Germans at Belleau Wood in France 1918 at 800 yards! even at other battles its range out classed the mauser.

5. Browning Automatic rifle: made in 1918 the B.A.R replaced the awful chatchat French automatic rifle. Though limited use in WW1 it proved indispesnable in WW2 and even Korea. Its rate of fire was 350 with the first model then was 500 in later models though the magazine capacity was still 20 rounds. In WW1 the Germans could stand up to its firepower though it wasn't produced much in 1918

6. HK G36: Though rather new it is a great assult rifle its pretty good range and accuracy but not been comletely adopted by the army though the German Federal Defence does use it.

7. M1 Carbine: though not used entirely by the American Army mortar crews and USAF it also proved its worth in Vietnam (in the M2 form fully- automatic) it still shot the .30in. caliber, it wasn't half as long as the .30-06 Garand rifle round. I consider it to be a great rifle all around.

8. Galil Assault Rifle: This Isralei rifle is almost a copy of the Ak47 though more accurate and range. Main difference, it shoots the 5.56mm instead of the 7.62.

9. AK74 Assault Rifle: This gun has alot more range and more accuracy than the AK47 and shoots the 5.45mm x 39. It is, I think, used now by the Russian Military.

10. Johnson LMG: though limited use it was mainly used by Para-marines it was light easy to use good accuracy and good range though it held 20 rounds it depleted easy because of its rather high rate of fire
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Registered: 06-07-09
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Definitely do NOT agree. The M-16 wouldn't have even made the list!

1. M-14. I carried one in Vietnam, powerful, accurate, great range and above all, RELIABLE! I was there when that jamming, black plastic piece of Stoner junk invaded our inventory. I own a 14 today.

2. M-1 Garand. Got to know it at Camp Pendleton. Perfect basis for the M-14, and Patton certainly thought a lot of it. I own one of THESE today too.

3. AK-47. Every bit as reliable as M-1 & M-14, just doesn't quite have the power and range of the other two, if you needed it. Faced a LOT of them in 'Nam, and own one today.

4. M-98 Mauser. I'd rate it just slightly over the Springfield due the strength and smoothness of the action. Got one of THESE too, a Stalingrad-capture.

5. 1903-A3 Springfield. Great power and range, just a real good bolt-action '06!

6. Browning BAR (1918). Good solid variable-speed 30.06, and you wouldn't want to be on the other end of one!

7. Swiss-K-31 7.5x55. Precision rifle, hand-lapped bores for great accuracy, that it was never used in combat is a testimony to Switzerland's Pro-gun policy. If you've never shot one, you need to.

8. Enfield 303 British. Plenty of knockdown power with that 312 diameter bullet. heavy-duty rifle, an "engine block" with a bolt!

9. M-2 Carbine. Versatile, not a whole lot of power, but very reliable in all weather/terrain

10. Ruger Mini-14...........if we HAD to go to a 223............it at least has "Garand-type" reliability. ***No matter how "Gee-Whiz, state-of-the-art" a weapons system might be, the very FIRST thing a combat gun has to do is WORK! With 40+ years of "improvements and modifications", the M-16/M-4 still has problems
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Registered: 04-18-09
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Ruger mini 14 what the Heck! It wasn't ever used in military service!
ak47 it ain't accurate and it doesn't good range, Though it 7.62mm had the same punch as the M14's 7.62mm NATO. I wouldn't put the AK47 except for the amount of Ak47s where made and the amount of countries that use the Ak.
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Registered: 07-31-09
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Originally posted by Corsair:
Ruger mini 14 what the Heck! It wasn't ever used in military service!
ak47 it ain't accurate and it doesn't good range, Though it 7.62mm had the same punch as the M14's 7.62mm NATO. I wouldn't put the AK47 except for the amount of Ak47s where made and the amount of countries that use the Ak.
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Registered: 11-01-08
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It bothers me a bit that these lists are restricted to 20th century designs. Some older guns deserving of attention:

1) The Baker rifle. First made in 1800, this was the first standard issue rifle used by the British army. Muzzleloader featuring a deliberately oversize .653 bore firing .625 caliber balls. This gave the user the ability to load the bullet with a patch to engage the rifling but requiring a mallet and ramrod to get the bullet down the bore, or loading unpatched which was much quicker but less accurate since the bare bullet wouldn't engage the rifling. Never replacing smoothbores in general service, the Baker was primarily a specialist weapon used by specially created rifle regiments.

2) Dreyse needle gun. First issued to the Prussian army in 1841, the Dreyse was the first general issue breechloader. The "needle" of the name was a long firing pin that pierced the paper cartridge to set off the primer located at the base of the bullet. Breechloading gave a considerable advantage in rate of fire and ability to reload from the prone position. However the Dreyse was lacking in range and hiting power compared to contemporary muzzleloaders.

3) The Spencer rifle. First repeating firearm used by the U.S. army. First made in 1860, the Spencer used metallic cased cartridges fed by lever action from a 7 round tube magazine in the buttstock. The rifle could be reloaded quickly by swapping out empty magazine tubes for loaded ones. Supplying metallic cartridges made the Spencer too expensive for general issue, it was primarily issued to cavalry units as a force multiplier. Used strictly by the Union in the American civil war, the Confederacy didn't have the manufacturing ability to supply equivalent weapons to its troops. Considered superior to the contemporary Henry rifle, which was less reliable and fired less powerful cartridges.
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Registered: 04-18-09
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I agree that they should use a broader range of weapons. One weapon i think is a great weapon is the Springfield Trapdoor fast loading due to its breech mechanism. It was used until the Spanish- American war when it fought against the Mauser . It was way superior to the old Enfield rifle which was a muzzle loader rifle.
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Registered: 11-01-08
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Originally posted by Corsair:
I agree that they should use a broader range of weapons. One weapon i think is a great weapon is the Springfield Trapdoor fast loading due to its breech mechanism. It was used until the Spanish- American war when it fought against the Mauser . It was way superior to the old Enfield rifle which was a muzzle loader rifle.

I am not a big fan of the trapdoor Springfield. It seems like a step backward from the Spencer, being a single shot weapon. Many people have argued Custer might have survived Little Bighorn if 7th cavalry had not been required to trade in their Spencers for Springfields.
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Registered: 04-18-09
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Yes but the main reason the American army won at the battle of the Big Hole is because of the Springfield breech loading rifle . It was like a 19th century sniper, almost.
One more rifle that should have been mentioned is the Sharps rifle, Breech loader extremely accurate used by sniper mainly at Gettysburg but many other places as well.
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Registered: 08-19-09
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Hmm...alot of people here tend to forget that this list was about ASSAULT RIFLES. Some list up machineguns and submachineguns.

Other than that people forget that alot of this list is about innovation. I believe one of the reasons for the AK47 to be top-10 is exactly just that = Innovative. It was the very first (disregarding the Stg44/MP44) modern assault rifle, that's still manufactured today. Although the weapon pretty much stinks today compaired to modern assault rifles.

Even though the M16 has been around for a long time (1964 = almost 20 years later than the AK47), it is surpassed by the AK47. Therefore my oppinion is that the AK47 was more innovative, plus it has a longer service-record. The M16 comes in a good second, it was the first "space age" weapon and has succeded in modernizing the weapon into todays standards/requirements.

This list is NOT about which weapon is the best by todays standards, on that list it should be the M16. I recall alot of US soldiers complaining about the M16s lack of stopping-power + alot of malfunctioning (compared to the AK47 which had a shitload of umpf + works in all conditions without hardly any maintenance)in the early years. Certainly, the M16 has far greater accuracy, less weight etc., which makes it a better weapon in the end.

Personally i have only used the AK47, M16 (various versions), G3 (i own one myself) and the Mauser. Even though there are better weapons nowadays my personal wish would be owning an M14 and a M1. Gotta love those rifles...
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Registered: 04-18-09
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Uh, acually if it was about assult rifles half of the rifles wouldn't go on!
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Registered: 09-15-09
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wow, ok. im gonna post my top 10 favorite assault rifles and explain each one, but they're not based on the past, they're based on performance.

10)CQ-M4

This rifle barely made it on the list, and the only reason it did was the extreemly high rate of fire. 900rpm is hard to argue with, because you'll be dead before you can argue. This rifle didn't make it higher due to being a CQC weapon.

9)G36c

This rifle is highly durable with a good rate of fire and accuracy, but again is better as a CQC weapon.

8)M468

This is pretty much an M4 with more durability and more kinetic energy. otherwise it would be a plain M4.

7)FN SCAR

I don't care if you like it or not, it is the predecessor of the #1 rifle, so it had to make it on here somewhere. With parts for a higher caliber and more accuracy, this gun is hard to classify, but it has one of the best stocks ever to be put on any rifle ever made.

6)L85A2

After H&K re-designed the internals, this gun became one of the greatest assault rifles in history. The telescopic sight increases the accuracy for the soldier, and it is just short enough for CQC.

5)LR-300-ML

With an extremely high rate of fire (950), good accuracy, and the ability to fold the stock, this is the perfect para-trooper weapon. It was hard for this weapon not to make the list.

4)G3A3

Probably the best semi-auto assault rifle ever made. the G3A3 has high accuracy and durability along with a big ar round and low weight.

3)G36KE

This rifle is a highly accurate, highly durable assault rifle with a built in scope and folding stock. The only thing to complain about is the weight.

2)Tavor (CTAR-21)

An extremely accurate assault rifle with a very high rate of fire, durability, and extremely compact figure. comes with a built in red dot sight that turns on and off with the safety and always stays perfectly zeroed and built in easy to use laser.

1)Bushmaster ACR (Magpul Masada)

Un-arguably the best assault rifle ever made. Has different stocks, barrels, and grips (sometimes with rails). Is easy to field strip (tool-less) and extremely durable. Has a 5.56x45mm NATO, 6.5mm Grendel, 6.8mm remmington, 7.62x39mm, and M4 beowulf barrel and upper receiver. Mostly uses P-mags (better M16 mags)and has the SCAR stock for most configurations. has the charging handle in front of the magazine to get rid of the problems with the charging handle being on top of the stock like the M16 had it.
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Registered: 09-23-09
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there are more factors that need to be recognized, before you can rate the rifles. The most important is the person shooting. the second is the environment that you will be fighting in, and the amount of time you will be in the field. The enemy you are fighting. The last is the quality of ammo that will be used.
I have been in combat, in a climate that hated you as much as the enemy. When I shot, it was more point and shoot than aiming. Most targets weren't long range. those that were, seemed to move alot.
I believe the weapons should be tested in bad weather, by people who have been in the field (day/night) for a couple of weeks with issued ammo. and unknown targets (only a second to aim and shoot)
I have shot several different weapons. I like the k98 for long range. for closer range I like the m16 and ak's. In war, I will be carrying the ak, because that is what my enemy will have and I can use his ammo. lol
sometimes, U.S. logistics isn't that great.
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