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I am a mother of three (ages 21,19 and 13). I grew up with a mom, who I love dearly and think she did a great job as a mom, who keeps her house spotless. Well, my room was not. She let me keep my room the way I liked it up to a point. When I got married and moved 500 miles away from my parents I tried to keep house like my mom did. It worked for a while, then I had children. I think I did a pretty good job. Then I had cancer six years ago. Since then my house looks like the Roloffs and I don't care. I do not like the way it looks, but doing the things I like to do takes precedence (sp?) over cleaning my house. We are not all perfect at everything we do. We choose our perfections and make our own choices. I choose to spend time doing the things I like to do and I see that in the Roloffs also. I would invite the TV cameras into my home to spend a month with us, air it, and then others might see that there are more important things to do in life. My day starts out at 4am. I get up early because I spend 2 hours alone, by myself, with no interruptions! Then the day really begins and I am around noise until I go to bed at 9:30. I work in a middle school and remember I have kids of my own. I love life and love the people in my life. The Roloffs seem to do the same. My family has grown to love Matt and Amy as much as I do. They are on my TV screen a lot. I relate to them! So to all who want to complain about their messy house, get over it! To Matt and Amy, you guys are doing a great job with your children and your life. Keep it up and don't change anything. You show the world what the real world should be about.
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I also agree. today there are so many things in life that we need to be concerned about. Who doesn't know someone that is dealing with cancer, loss of work, a fmaily memeber in the war. this is waht takes my day up. so if it bothers someone on what a house looks like thank god that your life is as perfect as you think it is. but God has the last wordI don't believe iy will be about how clean we keep,our houses, and if you think different, I would be praying to god thanking him that no tragedy has come your way. God bless this family and thank you God for bringing them into our lives.
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i love to clean and do not have half the busy life you guys do so i always joke with my boyfriend and say i want to clean there house for them he he i know im weird i love to clean. but i do live in salem OR and my boyfriend has met Amy love you Amy your the best plus matt Smile
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i love to clean and do not have half the busy life you guys do so i always joke with my boyfriend and say i want to clean there house for them he he i know im weird i love to clean. but i do live in salem OR and my boyfriend has met Amy love you Amy your the best plus matt Smile


LITTLE PEOPLE, BIG SLOBS
I don't have a problem with people who want to live like slobs, that's their business. What I don't like however--is people trying to make excuses for them. Get Real, with their newfound loot, they could afford to hire a fulltime housekeeper--if that were a priority in their lives. It obviously isn't, and most times they show leisure time at the Roloff house, it's playing video games, being glued to laptop screens, and inventing new ways (paintball) to keep the lazy kids from getting too bored.
Meanwhile, kudo's to Amy--the true hero of the show and only genuine, real personality. Let's change the name to Amy's world--as that's more of what we really view.
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"kudo's to Amy--the true hero of the show and only genuine, real personality."

amy is the reason that house is like it is. she does nothing to clean up nor has she taught those children to do anything. when matt does try to get the children to pick up amy jumps on him.
she's supposedly a teacher yet the kids are flunking in school. she eats like a kid, thinks she's one of the kids "buds" and has carefully taught those children to disrespect their father by her nasty attitude toward him.
she's disrespectful to her in-laws, uses foul language and has no standards as to how those children should behave.
real personality? yeah, she's a real ball of fire.

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Some people do have problems letting others clean their homes. If you remember, Amy was very uncomfortable when Matt got her a professional organizer for Mother's Dat and she was clearly unhappy when Matt's parents cleaned when Amy and Matt went on a cruise.

On the flip side though, Amy could do it herself. My mother worked and there were four of us within six years of age. We all had chores and if we didn't clean there were serious consequences.
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this has nothing to do with a messy house .but it is messy.i seen a repeat this morninmg ,and i know they are little people,but i got so fustrated when matt got a ticket for parking and it was on his windshield,and he could not reach it ..i know hes trying to show what little people go thru,but he could of just put the wipers on and the ticket would of came close to him to reach..im 5ft and can not reach the windshild too i have a envoy,and we too go thru stuff like that,but i use my brain and put the wipers on to grab a flyer.instead of letting it go flopping in the wind as he said...i love matt he is my fave ,but that episode got me fustrated.
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Some people do have problems letting others clean their homes. If you remember, Amy was very uncomfortable when Matt got her a professional organizer for Mother's Dat and she was clearly unhappy when Matt's parents cleaned when Amy and Matt went on a cruise.

On the flip side though, Amy could do it herself. My mother worked and there were four of us within six years of age. We all had chores and if we didn't clean there were serious consequences.
i agree with u .today on the repeat i seen the broom was on the floor ,and amy just walked by and not even picked up,it seem like they dont take baths too.and they had guess from the llp over in all that mess.i was embarras 4 them.
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The point is that they can never find anything. Tempers flare, they are always late because they can't find clothes to wear. If they would just put things where they belong life would be much better.
And it is the parents job to train the children to be adults. Can any of these kids cook, run a washer/dryer, pay bills/handle money. What are these kids going to do when they are out in the world on their own?
I think Amy's job is to prepare her children and she has totally failed.
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amy as the mother and lady of the house should clean up,,but she rather go on the skool bus with jremy to a soccer game AMY PLEASE CLEAN DOES UR HOUSE SMELLTOO MAYBE LIKE FEET.
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"kudo's to Amy--the true hero of the show and only genuine, real personality."

amy is the reason that house is like it is. she does nothing to clean up nor has she taught those children to do anything. when matt does try to get the children to pick up amy jumps on him.
she's supposedly a teacher yet the kids are flunking in school. she eats like a kid, thinks she's one of the kids "buds" and has carefully taught those children to disrespect their father by her nasty attitude toward him.
she's disrespectful to her in-laws, uses foul language and has no standards as to how those children should behave.
real personality? yeah, she's a real ball of fire.


Your so right she is the only person on the show who is annoying .The rest are great but the show would have higher ratings without her around
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amy as the mother and lady of the house should clean up,,but she rather go on the skool bus with jremy to a soccer game AMY PLEASE CLEAN DOES UR HOUSE SMELLTOO MAYBE LIKE FEET.



If she taught the kids to be organized instead of clothes,etc all over the house they would get things done much faster and school would be that much easier.
She likes to preach about skills they will need as adults yet being organized using time wisely instead of looking all over for things doesnt seem imporatant to her .
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you are sooo right silvia 29.good comment...tx
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I am a mother of three (ages 21,19 and 13). I grew up with a mom, who I love dearly and think she did a great job as a mom, who keeps her house spotless. Well, my room was not. She let me keep my room the way I liked it up to a point. When I got married and moved 500 miles away from my parents I tried to keep house like my mom did. It worked for a while, then I had children. I think I did a pretty good job. Then I had cancer six years ago. Since then my house looks like the Roloffs and I don't care. I do not like the way it looks, but doing the things I like to do takes precedence (sp?) over cleaning my house. We are not all perfect at everything we do. We choose our perfections and make our own choices. I choose to spend time doing the things I like to do and I see that in the Roloffs also. I would invite the TV cameras into my home to spend a month with us, air it, and then others might see that there are more important things to do in life. My day starts out at 4am. I get up early because I spend 2 hours alone, by myself, with no interruptions! Then the day really begins and I am around noise until I go to bed at 9:30. I work in a middle school and remember I have kids of my own. I love life and love the people in my life. The Roloffs seem to do the same. My family has grown to love Matt and Amy as much as I do. They are on my TV screen a lot. I relate to them! So to all who want to complain about their messy house, get over it! To Matt and Amy, you guys are doing a great job with your children and your life. Keep it up and don't change anything. You show the world what the real world should be about.

WELL SAID TEXAS!
Im a mother of 2 and twins coming. Do I have time or energy to keep up with the house? No thank you.

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A major part of parenting is to teach your children responsibility. The Roleff children are old enough to assist in cleaning up the house and at least be responsible for their own rooms. The entire family should be embarrassed on how their home looks. The home does look messy and unsantiary. The family seems to be overly concerned with "having fun". Life consists of occassionally having to do jobs that are not always fun but you can develop pride in doing an umpleasant job (aka housework) well.
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Forget about the mess, Matt has been found not guilty of DUI. I am very happy for him that he cleared his name. Perhaps this coming season, we'll see a change in the kids habits. It'll be the last year in H.S. for the twins and time to clean house.
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A major part of parenting is to teach your children responsibility. The Roleff children are old enough to assist in cleaning up the house and at least be responsible for their own rooms. The entire family should be embarrassed on how their home looks. The home does look messy and unsantiary. The family seems to be overly concerned with "having fun". Life consists of occassionally having to do jobs that are not always fun but you can develop pride in doing an umpleasant job (aka housework) well.


I agree and again the kids will do that much better in school . I also find such a mess a fire hazard .
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Forget about the mess, Matt has been found not guilty of DUI. I am very happy for him that he cleared his name. Perhaps this coming season, we'll see a change in the kids habits. It'll be the last year in H.S. for the twins and time to clean house.


Oh wow didnt realize its going to be last yr of school for the twins next season.
Imagine show might end after that than again maybe not. I would like it to see couple more yrs atleast
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"kudo's to Amy--the true hero of the show and only genuine, real personality."

amy is the reason that house is like it is. she does nothing to clean up nor has she taught those children to do anything. when matt does try to get the children to pick up amy jumps on him.
she's supposedly a teacher yet the kids are flunking in school. she eats like a kid, thinks she's one of the kids "buds" and has carefully taught those children to disrespect their father by her nasty attitude toward him.
she's disrespectful to her in-laws, uses foul language and has no standards as to how those children should behave.
real personality? yeah, she's a real ball of fire.



You hit the nail on the head, Lily-
I have been so emabarrassed for them when they have had family and friends over. I know that what the other posters are saying is partly true, "cleaning" house isn't everything. But, keeping a clean house is a responsibility and children should be taught to do the same. After their "big LP kitchen remodel project", I wonder what the real time lapse was until the kitchen was destroyed. I cannot believe they live in such filth. And to the other posters, I have 2 children, 11 and 13, my husband died 5 years ago, at the age of 46. I am 36 now and am going through chemo after a 9 year remission. I am tired and worn down every day but you will not walk into my home and find clothes on the floor and food all over the place. My daughters help me with putting away clothing and dishes and they will also sweep. I give them age appropriate chores. They are both straight A students and I belive that homework and school activities come before their chores. They have chores to develop a sense of responsibility, something clearly, Amy and Matt have not taught these kids. I feel for Molly. She seems happy, but she often appears detached from the family and lonely. Everything always revolves around the boys. Matt thinks the world revolves around him and how much money he can have someone else make for him and what "projects" he can get someone else to do for him. GROW UP!! I cannot imagine how Amy stands all his half brain ideas. That is why her family does not visit as often. I loved when her family did visit and her father called Matt out on everything. Matt is not a dreamer, he's lazy, and needs to wake up. Enough already with his childhood being spent in the hospital. His kids are going to be adults before he grows up and all he is going to have is a messy house unless Amy keeps it in Little People Big Divorce........
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Your right and these kids will one day be married will their spouse have to pick up after them look for old sandwiches under the sofa lol you get the point .
Its funny how the messy house posts are the most debated posts . A few folks take a lot of pride in a messy house lol and fine its their house but like you said things are just easier in organized house
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A major part of parenting is to teach your children responsibility. The Roleff children are old enough to assist in cleaning up the house and at least be responsible for their own rooms. The entire family should be embarrassed on how their home looks. The home does look messy and unsantiary. The family seems to be overly concerned with "having fun". Life consists of occassionally having to do jobs that are not always fun but you can develop pride in doing an umpleasant job (aka housework) well.


Did you ever see the episode when Zach pulls a shirt out of a huge pile stacked against the wall and a rat pulls the shirt back?

Lol kidding
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you've got to be kidding me!!! Poor Amy? ! LOL
that's a laugh a minute..If it wasn't for Matt working hard to provide for his kids what would they have? and who is always always the one trying to get those lazy kids to pick up all that trash everywhere? Not Amy! and my biggest problem is Amy! She is always rolling her eyes at him...and if she doesn't get onto Zach ...he'll never amount to anything...she doesn't make him do no one thing! He is so spoiled I almost can't stand it when he's even on the screen...I feel for Matt

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I agree with you amy needs to do something in her house..
have you ever noticed how they all favorize zack?
i love him to but hes a lazy little brat an his mouth is terrible..
he needs to grow up an think about other things in life besides soccer..after all you dont learn to cook an clean from soccer,after all he is little an he needs some responisabilitys..
i just the show tho..tired of reruns tho..i have a reminder on my puter when its on again..i watched 1 tonight ive never seen be4 but my god he makes poor amy do everything for him..why cant he GROW up an help himself..
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Hey...just an idea...the Roloff home can be the next place they host the show Survivor.....
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but she rather go on the skool bus with jremy to a soccer game

EXACTLY instead of spending the day cleaning, she spent the day supporting her son. And that makes her a bad mom????? And apparently you must be some out-of-touch old man to make a comment about being the lady of the house and the one who should clean it.
It gets on my nerves that you all can be so mean to put something here that will almost assuredly hurt a member of the family's feelings. Their house, messy or not, should not be any of your business. Don't watch the show. I think you need to go back and read Texas Mom's post again until you get it.
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I agree the roloffs may be messy but they all have heart and they always find time to spend time with there children no matter what they are doing.And life is to short to always worry about what other people think. Good luck with your self as well.
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my take on the whole..."doin' things with the kids".....it's nothing more then a ploy to get outta doin' the clean up !! she is incredibly LAZY an IMMATURE!!! and btw......i wonder whatever happen to the HUGE POD Matt got to store all the "stuff" in when they re-vamped the kid's rooms !! Surely they didn't haul all that crap back into the house..but on second thought .....the house sure looks like they did!!
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Some messy is quite acceptable for all the reasons posted here. But, no one can find anything!
I love all the Roloffs,and they all have real people problems. Matt makes hge plans and doesn't discuss with Amy. Then she winds up worrying about money. He could releive her anxiety with discussing.

But then, Amy doesn't listen to him or treat him with respect very often. This is a real big problem for me. Irregardless of her feelings, she shouldn't be critica;l of Matt at every step. And, it is showing in the kids. Recently, Molly was quite verbal in putting her Dad down just as if she were an equal parter. And the young one, Jamie. He is very disrespectful and Amy supports him and chastises Matt.

Trust me Amy. No one will be thanking you for your behavior and child-rearing in 10-20 years!!! This truly is not the "Christian way" to live your life! One would think you know that!
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It's the boys' bedrooms that drive me nuts. I guess if leaving items on the stairs for days at a time (safety hazard) and who knows what on the couch/floor/table or any surface capable of being 'placed on' is status quo for this family, why would the boys' rooms be any different?

I thought possibly due to Amy and Matt's size, they may not go upstairs often enough to see the disaster areas. Then I recalled Amy waking the boys and seeing them sleeping on mattresses and covering with sleeping bags. YUCKY! That blew my theory, at least in regard to Amy, about not going up there a possible contributing factor.

Really, Amy sympathizers, what mother would allow a child the age of Jacob to sleep in a bedroom with such cluttered surroundings? My goodness, where, if ever, will Jacob learn about maintaining a semblance of even a tidy bedroom? He's a child for darn sakes! If mom or pop don't guide him, who the heck will? Surely not the 'time' that is spent doing other things.

I don't care how the Roloff's live or what conditions they live in. I am, after all, at a posting board for the LPBW program, I've made observations while watching the program, and I am posting from the position I would take in my own home. I would not let my child's room go that far.
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I would not let my child's room go that far.


You got that right!
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i don't believe that was all jake's stuff in his room. the twins had cleaned up their room so i think a lot of their things went into jake's room just to add drama.
why else would they show amy trying to clean jake's room? tlc wanted the drama.
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I guess my mind is too old to consider all the variables. There are way too many to consider. I find that commenting on what I saw with my own two eyes as the easiest for me. There are no variables in what my eyes see. I saw Jacob’s room and it looked twice as bad as Zach and Jeremy’s room.

But, what I see will not be the same as what other viewers see.

If it did happen the way you stated, how would any of us know that? Our imaginations could run amuck if we’d allow them. Why torture ourselves?
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In one of this season's episodes, Amy is shown going into Jacob's room to prepare it for the remodel. She walked in and was shocked to see the condition it was in. I'm thinking to myself, she doesn't know about the condition of her 10 year old's room? When was the last time she went in there? Does she ever change his sheets? Most 10 year olds aren't going to clean their room without being instructed to do so on a regular basis.
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hello Caoral sea I figured Id get on here and send my apology to you personally It was rude how I acted and I have came to relize it was my mistake to agrue in the first place. Weather you accept it or not here it is.
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Thanks Heather, I appreciate that.
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I understand that the family tags themselves as a good Christian family with values and what-not, but I had a question that was slightly off-topic.

Why can't a family not be Christian and function without as many values and without just as much love?

Our family isn't Christian. We're not of your "traditional" religion. We're Pagan. No, we're not a cult and we don't worship the devil... but are our values not as good as the Christian values?
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canterbury,

You ask questions that make me think..I hate having to think. LOL

My family is Christian, but my daughter has a close friend who is an athiest. Even though we are Christian and she is not, I believe she DOES have values, and darn good ones, and I am proud to say she is my daughter's friend. Smile
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Thanks Heather, I appreciate that.


I know but Im serious im not on here to be mean and I was for no reason. I have no idea why i was that way towards you or anyone else Its not me at all. id rather invite you to my friends list than ignore list cause you have a lot of great points when I read through it all.
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canterbury.

After reading what I posted, just wanted you to know Im not saying you are an athiest..I have no idea what you believe and its not my business..my point is that if someone isn't Christian, I think that YES they can have values...just didnt want to get myself in any more trouble around here in case I wasn't clear. ahahah
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Heather...It's not a problem, maybe you just had a bad day. We all blow up from time to time. All is well, and today is another day.
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I've commented on this very thing before. What exactly defines a "good Christian family?" We often see people refer to the Roloff's as a good Christian family, but what does that really mean? Does a good Christian family belittle each other and hurt each other? Do they drink and drive? Do the children lie to their parents? Anyway, you get my point I hope.

Some of the meanest people I know consider themselves to be "good Christians," and I'm not exaggerating when I say that. To be honest with you, those that don't refer to themselves and others as good Christians are often far nicer and more accepting of others than those who do. They are doing good deeds for others and aren't tooting their own horn in the process, nor are the looking down on anyone.
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I believe people see a Christian family alot of times to just be perfect and never out of place. But I know for real that this is not true. Christians make mistakes just like everyone else. Were only human. I was adopted from Puerto Mexico when I was six. Im twenty two now and have been in America the entire time. My Mom and Dad are both American, but my Dad is a Baptist preacher and I know from that experiance Christians or anyone are not perfect.

When I was sixteen still being rasied in the Church way I began doing drugs and ended up running away for three years with some very bad people who I called friends. After I turned 17 I was addicted to coccaine. And while under the influenced was beat by my "so called boyfriend at the time" After i was put in the hospital. I often wandered why my parents never looked for me but in my ways i thought who would want me back. It turns out they were looking for me the officer in the hospital noticed my picture on missing files. I was reunited and one year later was married to a wonderful man. Now expecting a beautiful baby boy. But with all this i can honestly say No one is perfect no Christain, or any other religion.
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Our family is a bit mixed. Well, the one in my house is. I'll extend it a bit. It's all lovely and confusing, but I grew up that way... so I'm used to it.

My father's parents are devote Catholics. They go to mass and all that other wonderful stuff. They are very strict and until lately have been wonderful, nice people. My grandma B. is still so, but my grandpa B. is getting cranky in his old years, I guess. From what I understood in church, you are supposed to love everybody, treat others how you want to be treated, and so on. They found out that I was not following the "straight and narrow", as I have a wife, and have ceased to speak to me.

My mother's parents are Christian, I think. Not sure what "branch," but my grandpa R. watches church on the television every Sunday. My grandma R. is goofy as ever. I think they go to real church every now and then, but other than my grandpa being a wild one, they accept everyone. I showed up at the family reunion with Megan and our son, and my grandma goes, "Let me get a picture of this. I have to send it to Maury on the television. I see your types on there all the time, and they're just as cute as can be. Sometimes they have men dressed as women and they're purrrrrrrrty!" And then she goes on a tangent, praising me on my beautiful wife and son. (I love that woman.)

My Dad is quiet and doesn't talk much. He seems to like everyone. My step-mother is Lutheran. She's nice, aside from being somewhat racist. It may have been the way she was raised. I don't know much about her family. She does call my Italian family "dego," though, and it irks grandma and grandpa B. (Can't blame them.) My step-brothers are Lutheran and don't judge anyone. My half-brother there is Catholic and just as open minded as the older brothers.

Mom is Christian. Not devote, but she believes in God and Jesus and the like. The only things she doesn't like are liars and thieves. Anyone else? They're her best friends. Hehe. Step-dad is scum and doesn't even deserve this sentence. He hates everyone who isn't white and straight. (Close minds should come with closed mouths.) She raised us to believe what we were comfortable in. This resulted in my half brother in that household being Christian. However, he's slightly taking after his father and makes mean comments... but my mother is always quick to explain why he shouldn't judge anyone at all, whether it be his sister or the LP he saw in the mall. My younger sister is still deciding. My younger brother is athiest (last time I heard), and I'm Pagan... adopting many things from many religions.

Our household is somewhat like my mother's. We teach not to judge. We teach to be nice and kind to everyone. Meg is reading about Wicca, as she leans towards agnostic and is still searching for what she believes. Zeke is two, so we leave things open for him. We tell him the Christian holidays and their meanings, as well as others.

Meg's parents are very Christian. Meg's mother tells us to act like "friends" at family functions. Meg's father is much more open minded... and sticks up for us, most of the time.

I guess to each their own, but I don't think that there should be an emphesis on their values as being Christian. Good values can come in many families, whether they be Buddhist, Christian, or Atheist.
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(Close minds should come with closed mouths.)


That about sums it up. Smile
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I've been reading through some of the posts and I want to say I can see both sides of the issue. My comment is that I have noticed throughout my life that most of the time people who grow up in messy homes tend to keep very clean homes and vice versa. My Mom kept a spotless house. She had 6 kids, 3 boys 3 girls. She had 3 girls to help her keep a spotless house and none of us are guilty of keeping our homes spotless. Wink It's not that we don't want a spotless house but, speaking for myself, I don't want a spotless house at the expense of constantly griping and calling my kids names for not picking up after themselves as my mother did. My mother never attended any of our school events or my vollyball games and I remember how much that hurt me at the time. My step mother is the polar opposite of my mother and her daughter keeps a spotless house. My point being that teaching or not teaching kids to clean house does not really dictate how they will be when they are grown. My own house has looked like Amy's alot of times but I had two kids to raise on my own. I have a daughter who was born physically and mentally handicapped and I carried her on my hip for ten years before she could walk. I had to work on my own cars which were usually run down by the time I could afford to buy them. And that meant I hefted alot of transmissions in my life. I didn't have time to obsess over how clean my house was but I would have to tackle a mess just as bad as Amy's quite often and I would clean it all in one day. I've worked hard all my life and I am not a lazy person. But now I am 47 years old and already disabled. My daughter is a five year old in a 29 year old body. My son 28, works very hard at a job that would sicken most people and has a very good work ethic. He does his best to take care of both my daughter and me. I am no longer able to do any of the things I used to do because I have a number of health issues that prevent it. My house is cluttered badly but I don't have any roaches at all (clutter does not equal roaches). I keep up after the sanitary things trash, bathroom, dishes, laundry etc. Anyway, I just think people should not judge others unless they have walked in their shoes. I'm sure Amy would love to have a clean spotless and organized house just as I would. But people live their lives according to their own priorities based on the lot they've been given. Afterall, isn't that what these shows are about...to help us see the issues they have to deal with and how they deal with them?

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My mother's house looks like its fresh from the pages of any decorating mag. You can go over there at any time and find that its spotless - and its ALWAYS been that way. And she had 4 kids! What are my memories from childhood? Mom cleaning - always cleaning.

Well, I use to keep a spotless home. Then, when my 3rd child was just 7 months old, we found out I have a brain tumor - one that can never be completely removed. I've had 4 surgeries in 5 1/2 years, lost vision and hearing on one side and now have muscle weakness from the neck down on the other side. Housework? Not if I can help it.

My mom still doesn't get it. She rags on me - or my husband - and spends days cleaning my house for me every time she comes to visit. On the one hand, I do like how it all looks when she's all done. And it makes her feel good to do it - though she gripes about how tired it makes her. On the other hand, I do wish she'd lighten up. It is my house, and if we're happy why can't she be?

What do you guys think about my 11 & 9 year old having chores - several of them. Taking out the trash, loading & unloading the dishwasher, keeping their bathroom clean, feeding & watering the dogs, keeping the kitchen table clean, and putting up their clean clothes (and bringing the dirties to the laundry room). All that is divided up between the two boys and they swap off chores each week. Sometimes I feel that I've given them way too much to do, and at other times - compared with what kids their age did on farms even 50 years ago - its not so much.

I look forward to your feedback.
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What a wonderful gift you have given your children. You have taught them how to clean! BTW, they are old enough to be doing their own laundry too. A wise teacher told me when my son was nine that he could do his own laundry and would probably like that responsibility. She was right! I showed a few times how to fold his clothes, hang them up right out of the dryer, and he loved doing. Everyone wants to feel that they are contributing, and children are no exception. I have no doubt that your children want to help you, even if they don't always seem that way. They'll thank you for it later. Whereas the Roloff children will always resent their parents for having grown up in a sty, with the whole world watching, and for never being taught how to clean and organize a house. It will be a problem for them, for their entire lives. Every child has to be taught everything, including personal hygiene, cleaning, and laundry. Those poor kids have been taught nothing.
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This is truly a 'reality' show because if they were to film my family.... let's just say my humble little 1500 sq ft home with 2 kids and 2 working parents and a nanny looks about just as picked-up as the Roloff's house does.

That's just the tip of the iceberg though. I remember an episode where Matt died like 13 times in his sleep?! That really put things into perspective. Think about it- that could be anyone of us. If I were to be with the Lord tonight, what memories would I rather leave behind? Memories of spending hours cleaning the house or memories of family times where we worked together on projects learning the importance of goal setting, follow through, perseverance, and have you noticed- give thanks to God before your meals! Even more respectful is how they give back to the community. I see the kids go to a Christian school? So there's faith in God, too!

Anyone in business knows, you've got to spend money to make money. As I recall, Matt started out unemployed when the whole show began what, 5 years ago? Since then he built a business making those step stools, he went back to work in the high tech industry (I think), he's let TLC film his family everyday, not to mention he manages the family pumpkin business, it IS a farm. If you think about it, 5 years ago probably doesn't even compare to how many people go there now to buy a pumpkin. TV show or not, you don't just give some producer rights to how you run your family business(s) because a reality show will not be there to support you once the fad fades away.... so don't you see, Matt capitalizes on every God given opportunity he is given and not taking it all for granted. My hat's off to the Roloff's for making it happen!

...to all you haters and complainers, don't you have a room to clean? Better yet, tell your kids to clean it for you!
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What a wonderful gift you have given your children. You have taught them how to clean! BTW, they are old enough to be doing their own laundry too. A wise teacher told me when my son was nine that he could do his own laundry and would probably like that responsibility. She was right! I showed a few times how to fold his clothes, hang them up right out of the dryer, and he loved doing. Everyone wants to feel that they are contributing, and children are no exception. I have no doubt that your children want to help you, even if they don't always seem that way. They'll thank you for it later. Whereas the Roloff children will always resent their parents for having grown up in a sty, with the whole world watching, and for never being taught how to clean and organize a house. It will be a problem for them, for their entire lives. Every child has to be taught everything, including personal hygiene, cleaning, and laundry. Those poor kids have been taught nothing.


The boys may not fold clothes as good as yours but I bet they don't know how to install a geo-thermal heating unit in the house :-)
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I am the mother of 7 children . My husband served in the military for 29 years. we were not perfect but my children knew in order to do the things that were fun we had to do the work things that are required to make the house run with some semblence of order . The program is a shame because it shows the idea that laziness and being spoiled is rewarded. My children werent given a plane ride for their birthday . we have a pool and if they want to use it they are expected to help keep it up . We worked hard to purchase the pool .they were required to help each other to make sure that the house and pool was sanitary.It is unfair to let your children think the world owes them a living .Unfortunately their father has used his disability to give the children a life that is unrealistic and not what the world is about . Matt is a very smart and a very good visionary .I am sorry he didnt use the same enthusiam to try to instill good work habits in his children . Unfortunately ,the children will never have to stand up to the plate because their parents will have saved enough money to keep them solvent. I just think the program does a disservice to the youth of today . If my children were young I would not allow to watch the show because it gives them a bad role model. i only watch it occasionally but the fiasco of the 18 birtday cemented my passion not to watch it again. It is a shame because it could have been such a wonderful learning situation.
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