our networks
tlcanimal planetthe science channelmilitary channelthe health channel
site search
shop now
 

MythBusters

 
    Forums    MythBusters    MythBusters Episode Discussion    Concrete glider

Moderators: mythmod
Go
New
Find
Tools
Reply
  
-star Rating Rate It!  Login/Join 
Junior Member
Registered: 07-06-07
Posts: 1
Posted   Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
I love the show.
I watched Jamie and Adam build concrete gliders on the show a the other day. Their efforts, while showing some promise, were not dazzling. It occurs to me that lift depends on the velocity of the air moving over the wing. Is it possible that a heavy glider dropped from a greater hieght would behave more like a lifting body? Also, could a motorized glider made from concrete perform well? And again, there are other types of light weight concretes; could you get an advantage in decreased weight that would be enough to allow your previous efforts to fly successfully?
Thanks,
Bill Ridings
Member
Registered: 07-02-07
Posts: 10
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
concrete gliders??? i mean come on even a motorized one will not work it is just more weight. concrete is just to heavy for it to fly. there is no possible way to get a concrete glider to fly.
Senior Member
Registered: 01-16-07
Posts: 4202
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
[quote]concrete gliders??? i mean come on even a motorized one will not work it is just more weight. concrete is just to heavy for it to fly. there is no possible way to get a concrete glider to fly.[/quote]

You apparently didn't watch the show. Please watch it before you comment more. It will help you look like less of an idiot.
Member
Registered: 07-04-07
Posts: 7
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
I'm no expert at the theory of flight, but in the model that Jamie built, he sacrificed wing shape to reduce weight. I believe he also sacrificed the speed necessary to create the lift when he just threw his model off the balcony. I found it interesting that at the last moment he added more weight in a futile attemp to balance his plane
As far as cement being too heavy, weight can be overcome by thrust, just lookat how heavy the space shuttle is when it lifts off.
I would be interested to see a better wing design.
Senior Member
Registered: 06-28-07
Posts: 60
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
Given enough power you can make anything fly. The space shuttle is a great example of that.

Given enough technical skill and engineering it is possible while using modern formulas to make something more efficient than either model used on the show. But how much money does it take to improve on something that was already proven? And anyone knows there are plenty of better types of materials to build airplanes out of so why go any further than has been done?
Senior Member
Registered: 05-11-06
Posts: 491
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
Jamie and Adam ended the show believing that concrete gliders are possible. I think they even agreed that their own designs left plenty of room for improvement. But it's still impracticle. Once it's agreed that it's possible but impracticle, there's really no reason to continue.
Junior Member
Registered: 08-05-07
Posts: 1
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
It was a great episode but I think they made a serious mistake when they calculated the gliding ratio. The ratio increases with the initial speed where they start their calculations. Adams plane had a much higher speed at the start of the measured distance and therefore flew further. If you launch two identical gliders at the same altitude but with different speed, the glider with the highest speed will get the furthest distance and get the highest gliding ratio, even though the planes have identical specifications. This is why Adam won the competition even though his plane weighed more and generated less lifting power.
Member
Registered: 07-19-07
Posts: 40
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
I agree that this myth needs to be revisited. I've been building model airplanes for 30+ years and I'll bet I could make an concrete model glider fly. The problem that I saw with this episode is that Jamie and Adam were newbies at building model airplanes so they made some pretty goofy mistakes and it didn't help that they only had 1 shot at making their airplane fly.

For example, Jamie's plane could have flown better but his plane was out of adjustment so his plane did what we call a "Tuck Under". His airplane actually flew......right straight into the ground. lol If he had his decalange and his center of gravity adjusted right, he could have, would have, should have beat Adam's airplane. Big Grin
Junior Member
Registered: 05-31-08
Posts: 1
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
hi there

i havnt had the chance to see the show with the concrete glider yet.
but here in the uk in an aircraft museum they have a second world war german glider bomb made of concrete.the reason behind it is to make it heavier for more inpact.
stuggiebear
Junior Member
Registered: 08-20-08
Posts: 1
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
Here's why this mith should be revisited.
Adam's glider was attached to a zipline, giving it even momentum and setting it on a properly angled descent. However, that was not the myth. If you attach a rock to a zipline and let it go, it will continue its forward movement until it is stopped by the ground, the same as the glider. Adam's plane did not glide... it just fell with minor lift and continued forward with the momentum it had on the zipline. If jamie's plane had been on a zipline, chances are it would have flown further, straighter, and retained lift linger than adam's behemoth.

Redo it. My family is full of pilots and we were yelling at the TV screen for the duration of the test because it was so biased toward's adam's lift-less glider.
 Previous Topic | Next Topic powered by eve community  
 

    Forums    MythBusters    MythBusters Episode Discussion    Concrete glider

 
advertisement
 
SITE SEARCH
SUBSCRIBE TO OUR NEWSLETTERS
CREDITS DCL
DISCOVERY SITES Discovery Channel / TLC / Animal Planet / Discovery Health / Science Channel / Planet Green / Discovery Kids / Military Channel /
Investigation Discovery / Discovery Home / HD Theater / Turbo / FitTV / HowStuffWorks / TreeHugger / Petfinder / PetVideo / Discovery Education
VIDEO Discovery Channel Video Player
SHOP Toys / Games / Telescopes / DVD Sets / Planet Earth DVD Sets / Gift Ideas
CUSTOMER SERVICE Contact Us / Free Newsletters / RSS / Sitemap / TV FAQs
CORPORATE Discovery Communications, Inc / Advertising / Careers @ Discovery / Privacy Policy / Visitor Agreement
ATTENTION! We recently updated our privacy policy. The changes are effective as of Tuesday, October 30, 2007. To see the new policy, click here. Questions? See the policy for the contact information.