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well i think it could of been better planed out
for one the dukes made the jump on dirt and landed on dirt. 2 they should of added more weight in the car to simulate the two people and what ever they had in the trunk and theres probrally more but i cant think of any right now
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First they need wieght in the cockpit to simulate Bo and Luke. Next I have done this type of jump not as far and I did it with my buddy in a 1979 Trans AM (like the Bandits) and we had 2 in the cock pit and my buddy put 15 bags of 50Lb concrete in the trunk and we landed and drove away from a 50 foot jump and the only damage we had was a broken driverside rear shock and the oil pan was pushed in about 5 inches from the inpact. I have lost touch with him but the last I heard the car was still in operation 18 years later... Just have to know how to jump. Thanks for reading.
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Originally posted by mythmod:
The Dukes of Hazzard and the General Lee ALWAYS got away from Roscoe P. Coltrane the hard way - Jumpin' that gorge! Is those spectacular jumps possible to perform and then just drive away?

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i noticed that in the movie clip that they landed on a platform that was above them and did not land straight to the ground i think that the test needs to be more accurate to the movie the needs to be made to be landed on a higher platform
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i noticed that in the movie clip that they landed on a platform that was above them and did not land straight to the ground i think that the test needs to be more accurate to the movie the needs to be made to be landed on a higher platform
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Seriously flawed there were no people in the car, also as they pointed out in the episode that there was no spare tire in the trunk, im also sure that the dukes of hazzard kept SOMETHING in the trunk. The car was nowhere near balanced and therefore this myth needs to be redone for more accurate testing.
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I just caught this myth this afternoon, and i must say i'm a little disappointed. This myth should not have been busted. This was proven possible during the filming of another Discovery channel show (Stunt Junkies). In one episode Professional Rally Driver, Ken Block, jumped his heavily modified (just like the general lee) subaru sti, 171 feet(1 foot shorter than the mythbuster's jump). Upon landing we see that the subaru is still drivable and running, and driver ken block is completely unharmed. Mythbusters...i think a little reseach before hand would have been a great help because after seeing one myth busted that i know to be plausible, it throws many of the other myths you have tested into question. I still love the show, it's as entertaining as ever. Keep up the good work!
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This Myth is totally busted! As a kid my dad used to tell me that they would replace the 'General Lee' after every jump they made.

If you 'wiki' the General lee it clearly states that none of the cars survived any of the jumps.


"Through the history of the show, an estimated 309 General Lees were used. Twenty three are still known to exist in various states of repair... These Chargers performed many record-breaking jumps throughout the show,almost all of which resulted in a completely destroyed car"


To begin with I agree with what MopedFred had to say.

As far as I’m concerned I think the Mythbusters did a good job in the way they handled this myth. Primarily the stuck pretty close to what we are led to believe is fact in the movies.

Yes, I have seen heavily modified cars make some extraordinary jumps and survive intact, however, the key to this is the fact that they are heavily modified. Yes I am sure that given enough time and resources the car could have been modified to a point whereby it would survive, however, this puts it outside the scope of the myth.

Although the General Lee is, ‘according to the movie and TV show,’ a Stock Car, as in a car built to race in the stock car classes, as far as I’m aware this does not include modifications which would allow the car to land intact after a significant jump.

The car used in the myth landed exactly how stunt drivers from many movies and TV show have said cars land when flown, that is they land nose first. All anyone has to do is to watch any of the interviews with stunt drivers from the Dukes of Hazzard and they all say the same thing. weights were placed in the rear of the cars to allow them to land flat. Also listen to their descriptions of how the cars are trashed after the jump sequence.

As for the movie, watch the making of special! They clearer show and describe how many of the jumps were made and the illusion of a landing configured. Many of the larger jumps where made by firing the car via a pneumatic catapult. There are no ambiguities here, there are many interviews and videos out there of this being done some included with the DVD. As a side note there were 26 Chargers on hand for the movie.

This is an extract from an interview with Rhys Millen: The Stunt Drivers Behind The Dukes of Hazzard Movie By John Pearley Huffman

The 26 Generals
The Dukes of Hazzard have always had a voracious appetite for Dodge Chargers. During production of the TV series' 147 episodes between 1978 and 1985 somewhere near 300 Chargers were destroyed portraying the General Lee. For the film a total of 26 Chargers were acquired (14 1969 models plus eight 1968 and four 1970 editions modified to look like '69s) and each was built to fill particular needs during filming. Not all of them survived.

Hard Jumps and Soft Jumps
The climactic General Lee jump of the film was shot in Clinton, Louisiana, in January with, initially, stunt driver Mark Hager piloting. Planned to go 140 feet with the Feliciana Parish courthouse in the background, the first attempt wound up only going about 70 feet. So it was later reshot with a driver-less car shot into the air pneumatically.

While the flights wound up performed by unguided Charger missiles, those invariably ended with devastating - survivable by neither human nor Dodge - crashes. Of course, Johnny Knoxville, Seann William Scott and Jessica Simpson weren't around for the on-screen landings; they were all accomplished by the stunt men. "Pretty much every big jump was followed up by what they call a soft ramp jump," says Millen.

"You had to drive out of the jump to continue the scene. Some of them were a one ramp, where we had run two wheels up onto it and give the car a big twist, and then land and come down. Others were actually full jumps. I had the opportunity to do two of those. One was across a creek, and then was kind of side-by-side, when Billy Pricket and the General Lee were racing each other. So that was pretty neat. And now I'm able to say that I jumped the General Lee. The landings though weren't so great, because the suspension is not modified. Typically, you were landing into soft gravel on the roads, or something like that would really absorb a lot of forward energy out of the cars. And some that were a little bigger than those, I actually chose not to do because of a back injury I got last year."

Those jumps however weren't the hairiest moments on the shoot. "There are particular shots in the movie where Rhys comes around and throws a power slide 90 and makes a left turn and then does a 180," says Scott with a touch of awe in his voice. "At that 180 the trunk of his car crossed underneath the camera. So we were probably - when he threw that 180 - probably within 6 to 8 inches. I don't know if he agrees or not, but that was one shot that certainly got my attention. I was on top of it."

The full article can be read here
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The jump the MB crew did was flawed in one way, they needed abour 350 to 500 pounds in the rear to get level flight. Thats what was used in the TV show. For the movie they used a cable setup similar to the Too fast Too furious 2 movie, its amazing what they can delete in a vid to make it look real
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The whole point of this episode was to see if they could replicate movie myths not movie stunts. The myth being that it is possible to jump a relatively stock car, land on all four wheels and drive away. Adding weight or modifying the car in anyway is simply replicating the stunt and there’s no point in doing that because many of the techniques involved have already been proven to work and mentioned within this posting. I don’t think they got this wrong at all.
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I think that the test that they did was flawed in the car that they used - a GM (Monte Carlo/Grand Prix/Cutlass/Regal) - has the wrong front/reaer weight distribution. Many years ago I read an article in one of the trade rags (Motor Trend or Car & Driver) about how Chrysler had designed their cars (like the Charger) with a 40%/60% weight distribution. The exact reason for this was not made clear, only that significant design $$$ were spent (wasted in the authors opinion, if memory serves) for decades in order to make the cars tail-heavy. I always assumed it had to be for real-wheel traction rather than gorge jumping, but it would be precisely this weight distribution that would make the jumps possible for the General Lee. I think that a do-over is called for.
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Well I just watched this episode again and what I found ironic was that the mythbusters could not achiever this stunt but then rght after they tried their jump of 172 feet they showed someone who actually achieved 270 feet and drove off. A little acceleration as you go off the ramp will provide a rotation that will help keep the car from nose diving at the end.
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I can't see how they busted this one either...the additional DVD features show the stunt guys doing this jump for real...they shouldn't bust something because they don't have the skills to pull it off...because it is obviously 100% plausible...
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