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Registered: 04-28-06
Posts: 13
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the mythbusters were very amused at the idea that plants can feel, but it is true, they can be intimidated and they feel pain just as humans, even though this isnt the myth in episode 24, they should have atleast mentioned that plants DO feel, and it can be recorded on electronics
proff is the work of a named indian scientist J C Bose
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagdish_Chandra_Bose
read the plant research, There is a machine to respond to plants feelings, it EXISTS! why not try that instead of machines meant for humans?????
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Senior Member
Registered: 09-18-06
Posts: 1343
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[quote]but it is true[/quote]
No, it isn't.
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Senior Member
Registered: 01-21-06
Posts: 232
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Yes, it is true. If you play Mozart to flowers on a daily basis, along with good care, they will grow faster and stronger. 
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Senior Member
Registered: 07-19-06
Posts: 4213
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Once I went to a PETA meeting. Among the literature was a pamplet from a woman who insisted that plants feel pain and scream when being placed in boiling water. It was her conclusion that ethically we should not eat most palnts. Unsaid was what to do with 6 billion starving humans.
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Registered: 02-13-06
Posts: 32
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plants do fell. corn wene being ataked by insekes sends out a cemical crie to benifishol insekes.
I'm A bad speller get over it.
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Registered: 10-06-06
Posts: 29
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ooodork I have no idea what you said.
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Member
Registered: 04-28-06
Posts: 13
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gatorgrater, are you kidding me?
did you see the wiki links?
A WELL KNOWN SCIENTIST PROVED BEYOUND DOUBT THAT PLANTS HAVE FEELINGS
why is this so hard to believe ?
are they not living beings? with organs and sensors? the bacteria in yogurt isnt having having sersory organs, plants do.....
also EGGS are DEAD things, they are never alive per-se (the ones we eat) coz they are unferitlized, no life in them.
this is also a well known fact in poultry circles, my extended family is the 2nd largest supplier of chicken and eggs in india. so i do know what i am talking bout.
read up on J.C bose and his work on plants. before telling me that plants dont feel.
also read how he created a machine which PROVED plants feelings
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Member
Registered: 04-28-06
Posts: 13
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btw, i am no vegan peta nut, who says drink only matrix type goop for food, heck i eat chicken a lot! but the point is, FACT is FACT!
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Senior Member
Registered: 08-13-06
Posts: 351
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[quote]ooodork I have no idea what you said.[/quote] You didn't miss much.
Anyway, there is no scientific evidence, till there is, it's as good as a ghost story.
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Member
Registered: 04-28-06
Posts: 13
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i dont know about plants and ESP, but they feel
read it here
http://www.borderlands.com/plantresearch.htm
this is PROOF, why cant you read it ?
i mean this scientist proved it beyound a doubt, the sceintist believed it proven, but common man still cant believe it wtf??
also J.C bose did more experiment other than plants
http://www.tuc.nrao.edu/~demerson/bose/bose.html
this isnt hear say, ask any scientist who works with plant life and they will say that plants can feel.
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Senior Member
Registered: 09-11-06
Posts: 2024
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[quote]did you see the wiki links?
A WELL KNOWN SCIENTIST PROVED BEYOUND DOUBT THAT PLANTS HAVE FEELINGS[/quote]
Well, I looked at them. And they say no such thing. They say that plants respond to stimuli; Gosh! What a revelation!
So do rocks. If I push one over a cliff edge, it responds by falling.
This is as far from claiming that plants have feelings as you can get.
You're projecting your own screwy, misguided views onto a statement that lends you no support at all.
Also, by the way, the Wiki article itself is credulous, at best. No one has ever confirmed that plants grow better in "pleasant" music, despite their claim. Prove me wrong: show me an article from a peer-reviewed journal describing such an experiment that has had positive results.
You need to get out more.
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Senior Member
Registered: 09-11-06
Posts: 2024
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[quote]http://www.borderlands.com/plantresearch.htm
this is PROOF, why cant you read it ?[/quote]
No, it isn't. It's the same unsubstantiated, unconfirmed drivel you were pushing in your earlier link.
Still waiting for that independant confirmation - you know, the thing that actual science demands?
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Senior Member
Registered: 09-11-06
Posts: 2024
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[quote]the point is, FACT is FACT![/quote]
Yeah, you can always tell when someone is promoting actual fact when they have to resort to yelling and screaming to ram their point down other's throats.
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Registered: 09-14-05
Posts: 17
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I work with scientists who in turn work with plants (i.e. botanists). We had this discussion once, about a year ago. Five people were in the discussion and only the art history professor took the stance that plants had feelings. The rest of us were discussing our enthusiasm for a show that disproved popular misconceptions...
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Senior Member
Registered: 07-07-05
Posts: 1036
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[quote]http://www.borderlands.com/plantresearch.htm[/quote] There are a lot of titles of books but there is no proof. Have you cut a lawn where the grass has grown a bit longer than what is common on a lawn? Have you seen dandelions growing there about half a foot high. You cut the grass on the dandelions almost stop growing and develop their flowers an inch or two above ground. Feelings? Do not know but somehow the flowers have a capacity to learn or react to what happens to them. By the way: I never tried to communicate with them to get the answer how it feels When I was a child people often were fishing using worms which they put on the hook. When I felt sorry for the worms I was told they did not feel it. Wonder why the worms cringed so much. I bet it was not of laughter!
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Member
Registered: 04-28-06
Posts: 13
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well, do any of you belive plants are living beings?
i mean someone equated a rock with a plant, same ting isnt it? i mean break a rock, and it will regrow? wont it?
trees and plants feel, and thats period, do they have feelings? like sadness and joy? i dont know, if they respond to stimuli, it means they have to have some sensory or they couldnt have responded,
can you einstiens get it? to respond to anything you first have to FEEL, a touch me not plant withdraws its leaves when you touch them (dont know its scientific name) also dont go and say a rock moves when i push it, its a different thing, you didnt push the plant, just touched it
so it has sensory, if there is sensory perception, it can feel
possible that it isnt developed completely in some plants
as for ESP, thats just bull.... ESP doesnt exist as far as i know.
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Senior Member
Registered: 10-04-04
Posts: 70
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I remember seeing an experiment on TV where in one room a plant was hooked up to a sensor to measure electronic pulses from the leaves, and in the next room behind a closed door some type of animal (maybe brine shrimp or snails?) was tortured to death by putting them in fluid that they can't live in (maybe salt water or mild acid).
Anyway when the animal was put in the fluid and was suffering the plant in the next room gave off electrical impulses which were measurable, meaning the plant could sense the pain of the pain occurring in the next room, and stopped after the animal's death.
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Senior Member
Registered: 07-19-06
Posts: 4213
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That is just what the MB were testing and they concluded Busted. Do you have a source for the experiment you mention?
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Senior Member
Registered: 10-01-06
Posts: 351
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Nobody debates that plants are alive. And yes, they respond to stimuli, they will grow toward light etc. But does that mean they can feel? Do they have nerves to carry sensory information? A brain to process this information? Do they have a consciousness? Definately not.
There is alot of stimuli I respond to that I do not feel. For example, when the light in a room slightly increases my eyes react and decrease the amount of light that can enter.
The point I am trying to make here is that responding to stimuli and "feeling" are unrelated.
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Senior Member
Registered: 07-07-05
Posts: 1036
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As I mentioned above we can see that dandelions can react but what they feel we will never know unless we identify with them.
It is common for man to identify himself with house pets so consequently man believes that dogs and cats have feelings. Walk into a forest and stand there among the trees silently and receptive and you will find they are your silent friends.
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