I think that most people with a ::"HANDGUN":: would try to shoot the shoot off the lock bolt (the part were the lock has that hoop thing were it connects) because it is the part which is the most thin and the most nesessary part to shoot.
Thanks for listening...
- Troy
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When I was deployed in Iraq, there was a method of entering a house called a shot-gun breech. Basically, they'd use a shotgun on a locked door to get in. My company didn't use it, but my brother's did. Usually, the shot would shred the door around the lock, making it easier to kick in. Alternatively, sometimes they'd shoot out the hinges instead of the lock.
I just completed a 16 month tour in Iraq. During that time we breached literally thousands of doors in our raids and searches. Our SOP was to shoot the padlock or deadbolt with a 12gauge Mossberg mod 500 shotgun. It worked great with little collateral damage. In the beginning of our tour as we tried to figure out the best way to breach the locks we tried a few different things. We made "hockey pucks" where we filled empty Copenhagen or Skoal cans with C-4. We would put duct tape on the backside of the can and stick it on the deadbolt. It would blow a fairly neat hole in the door removing the lock. We also made water impulse charges with a saline IV bag from the medical kit. They were far too powerful and ended up blowing the door off the hinges. Well, hope that helps.
ok guys , you should definitly revisit the lock with handgun. If I heard correctly carrie was using wad cutters instead of jacketed ammo try a 44 mag with a jacketed hollow point at least try. Wad cutters are mde to shoot paper targets. thank you sharkb81
can u all please read what im tring to say? The Mythbusters need to revisit the myth to see if they can shoot off the lock bolt (the part were the lock has that hoop thing were it connects) with a hand gun. Not shooting the body of the lock or shoot it with a rifle. please try to understand
troyboy, if you're talking about the staple, where the shackle of the lock(the u-shapped section that is part of the padlock) goes through. I posted that exact comment in reply to another thread on this very subject. Yes a hand gun will take the staple and break it, and the padlock at that point is useless. It would also help of you got your terms straight...
hmm actually they were also using locks that are basically proof to small hand gun fire they should be using the older style locks they showed in the movie not the layered steel locks that we use now hehe
Minitalon was right in one aspect. In the movie, they used older locks. However, the guns were older, too. What they should've done is get the same kind of gun and find a lock that would be used in the movie's time period.
What interested me was that they used deadbolts and locks that you can buy at Home Depot for around $5. I understand that they have a budget on these things, but why not get some top-of-the-line things?
I think mythbusters should revisit this myth. When I was younger, I remember Master Lock commercials where they would test there locks by shooting them. The big thing about Master Locks is there durability. I did notice that most of the locks that were used on the show were Master Locks.
yeah this episode annoys me a fair amount... It again shows a lack of common sense in some of the ways they approached the myth.
For 1 there are much stronger handguns and lots of types of ammo. I'm not a big gun guy but I'm sure there have been lots of suggestions for things like the larger caliber hand guns...IE Desert Eagles among others...
Second they really didn't aim at the weak part of the lock. If a padlock is on a door you'd aim for the thinest part. You wouldn't aim for the body (like others have said they used to show in commercials the masterlock getting hit by bullets)... You could even aim for the slip of metal the lock goes through in theory shooting part of the door and not part of the lock itself...since in many cases that would be the thinest piece of metal.
The Master locks were shot at a right angle through the center of the lock. I have never seen any movie where that type of lock was shot at that angle, all the locks were shot at an angle, specifically dowmward. Shooting through the side of a master lock was actually used in an advertisement for master locks years ago. Retry this myth, that was busted, by shooting the lock from above at a downward angle.
Hi, I just watched the episode where hanguns shooting locks was busted. While I liked the show there is only one thing missing in your arsenal, that being the 44 magnum. while the 357 is a potent handgun it has no comparison with the 44. I reccomend the ruger redhawk with a 7 and 5/8 inch barrel using a 240 grain semi-wadcutter round. I have personally loaded my own shells using this weapon and projectile with 23.6 grains of winchester 296 powder and cci magnum primers and fired a round into the tailgate of a 1979 ford pick-up at 75 yards and the round went clean through the truck and exited out the grille. If you really want to see destruction and awesome power, I believe federal makes a round called the hydra-shok. it may be another maker but you get some of these babies and I am sure this hangun will prove itself plausable at any distance although a handgun round does not reach full velocity till some distance from the muzzle. you should run this one again but you'll probably neede a new door when your done!!!
your episode on shooting off a lock and your dramatization is not consistent with most of the movie clips you showed, you should have shot the padlocks from the side not head on, try it and you just might get different results
