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Registered: 09-13-07 | When Kari had the chip implanted, you ran a hand-held reader over her arm to check that it was working.
Could we please have more info on the hand-held reader, and how to get one?
Note to inteleagle:
As with other chips, RFID chips can be ROM (read only) or RAM (read/write).
I would hazzard a guess that all implants are read/write, and don't need to be replaced to update. |
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Registered: 09-14-07 | quote:
Thank goodness you posted this! I was DISGUSTED that it was even implied that RFID chips were a "good" idea for medical purposes. If you have any doubt, remember that this article was published by AP--clearly not a spurious source. Katherine Albrecht's site can provide more information about this terrible trend. |
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Registered: 09-14-07 | quote: Originally posted by maxnorris:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by orios:
Question - Did Kari get the RFID removed?
I'd get that thing removed, just to be safe.
The chips are implanted with a large needle as shown on the show. The chips CANNOT be removed the same way. They must be removed surgically using a local anesthetic--a much bigger deal than anyone thought of. I wish Kari (and the producers) had given this more thought. If we ever see stitches where the chip was implanted we'll know that she endured a minor surgery to keep herself safe. |
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Registered: 09-08-07 | quote:
this link that i posted is about the cause of cancer by the RFID implant. i posted the info about the link but i didnt see it, i just really want kary to have the implant removed! |
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Registered: 07-27-06 | This is another case where one type of study has been blown out of proportion.
Notice how the "source" of the study did not say what types of tests were being done on the animals.
RFID chips have been implated in 1000's of animals and if there would have been a real cause for concern you would have heard it from the FDA or farmers groups.
Do you really think the humane society would endorse RFID chips in your pets if they really caused cancers?
Remember look at the source, their reliability and how many other studies have come to the same conclusion. Before jumping to conclusions your self. |
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Registered: 11-17-05 | re the off topic link to the video of the guy catching the arrow:
only under very strict conditions like known distance, quiet, off target line, etc
possible, but no practical use: he can't catch one of my hunting arrows fired directly at him
since they have gone through elk and deer, they will go through him and his hand more likely than not; simply won't have time to get off line, listen, and time it just right for an unknown distance/speed.
my traditional equipment is faster than the 100 mph they quoted; he must have slowed up a bit; my hunting arrows do 200 fps/135 mph |
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Registered: 09-13-07 | quote: Originally posted by brokenarrows:
re the off topic link to the video of the guy catching the arrow:
...he can't catch one of my hunting arrows...
...they will go through him and his hand more likely than not...
Sorry, didn't see the clip. Was that Chris Angel? Chris Angel caught an arrow on his tv show. No trick, just pratice. They showed about a dozzen attempts, and admitted to 100s more. Yes he stood to one side of the flight path. And it was a very dull arrow. It BOUNCED off the wall behind him when he missed. No info on speed. But he eventualy caught it. |
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Registered: 09-13-07 | quote: Originally posted by mochajoe19:
Any Christians? RFID=Mark of the Beast? What do you think?
I'm an atheist. And even i can see that numbering people is evil. The Nazis totooed serial numbers on people in the 40's. Malinomia or not, RFID is a cancer. |
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Registered: 01-10-07 | quote: Originally posted by mythmod:
Could that RFID explode in an MRI?
Talk about it here!
MythMod
I don't doubt your results on a RFID but it contains very little metal that would be attracted to the MRI. However, a pacemaker or defibrillator would cause pain even death if they where dependent on the device. I actually know for a fact that it will ruin the device by either zapping the electronics or draining the battery. Please revisit this myth! |
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Registered: 09-06-07 | I propose that the R.F.ID. had no chance of reacting. However, I have a Spinal Cord Stimulator implanted in my back. Made from titanium and lots of metal, I have specific orders NEVER to get an M.R.I. and I can't pass through metal detectors (airports,secure buildings, ect.) Here's what some look like: http://www.medtronic.com/neuro/paintherapies/pain_treat...antable_brochure.pdfSo Adam & Jamie,PUT IT TO THE TEST. |
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Registered: 02-02-07 | mythanthropic, I know chips can be ROM or RAM. I help make them. But for credit cards to use them they must all agree to use a common RFID accesible by all companies. Most will NOT do so to protect their "interests" thus it must be removed if you want to add, change, or cancel a card. It is not the technology but private companies refusal to share the technology which makes RFID credit card use ineffective. Permanent information like medical which can be altered and regulated to use the same RFID makes sense. There must be a universal common ground for RFIDs to be normally used in human societies. |
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Registered: 10-03-07 | So I have a new evolution of this myth. In '93 I had a spinal fusion with two very long (about 12-14") rods and two brackets, all metal. I was told at the time that I would never be able to have an MRI done again. So now I wonder if that is because of possible imaging distortions, or could it atually be painful? Anyone know? |
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Registered: 01-08-08 | |
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Registered: 02-22-08 | quote: Originally posted by korimitsou: Although the RFID implant isn't in widespread use in people yet, cochlear implants are. People who have cochlear implants are not allowed to get MRIs without having the implant first removed, then reimplanted afterward, even though in this case, it's a major surgery. I've always heard that this is because of the magnet in the internal part of the implant (which is how the external and internal parts connect)--not that it would explode, but that the MRI machine might cause internal burns to the person's skin. I don't know if cost would be prohibitive, but it would be interesting to see them test this with a cochlear implant and see if that would really happen.
I have a couple people in my family with Cochlear implants and have often wondered about this. One unfortunate instance that could occur is in an auto accident. Since the external processor that hangs on the ear (much like a hearing aid) is completely and easily removeable, it could be knocked off in an accident and medical workers would not know of the implant and could, therefore, assess a need for an MRI and get some VERY less than favorable results. Any ideas? |
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Registered: 03-08-08 | Hi i just watched the mythB season 5 myth evolution episode. And the comment of grant makes me mad
" Look i think we are enuff in the goverment watch list lets just let this one go"
I mean if u can find out if its possible to TRACK HUMANS with RFID or some other implants like it dont u feel obligated to find out if we are been told the truth about the chips and the real use of em bcause there is alot of opportunitys of using them against us and not for us!!! Dont u think it would be myth worth revisiting?? Greeting's From finland |
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Registered: 04-27-08 | My understanding/knowledge of an MRI myth is related to tiny flecks of metal lodge in steelworkers/welders eyes.
“Apparently” because eye tissue is so soft, the metal flecks can be dragged through/out of the eye(s) by the MRI, which can result in eye damage / blindness. |
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Registered: 08-31-08 | I know that this post is super late, but I just saw the episode. This episode seemed very poorly researched. I work in the radiology field, and even I found some things wrong with that episode. It said that someone with tattoos would explode in the MRI. In the consent for the exam it mentions tattoos. The reason for this is because older tattoos used to be lead based. And feromagnetic metal is still used in some colors, like cobalt blue. The nature of the MRI is to align the cells in your body with a magnet, minute movements can be picked up. So it caused any feromagnetic metal to move. It heats up the metal. The amount of heat depends on how much metal is in the ink. That temperature rise itself is not that big of an issue, however, imagine if someone had eyeliner tattooed with one of these inks, it can be VERY uncomfortable and painful.
One myth that I am curious about concerning MRI is that with patients who have experience welding, we always take an xray of the orbits (or eyes) and the reason behind this is that sometimes they dont always wear their protective gear and they may have a shard of metal in their eye. If that happens and they get the MRI the metal will be pulled out of the body by the magnet through the eye. Same goes for ppl with gunshot wounds. |
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Registered: 09-29-09 | A friend of mine said RFID devices (implants, Drivers' licenses with chip inside, etc. ) are quite easily circumvented: He experimented with a veterinary implant ( normally put in a dog/cat) and injected it subcutaneously in a Ham, then checked it to make sure it was working, THEN, put the ham in a small microwave oven, set for 10 Seconds.....it toasted the Implant !.....wouldn't read anymore, so he said a concentrated microwave Beam will kill RFID chips under the skin....you may get an RF burn, but that will heal. Also, the RFIDs in various "I.D. Cards" used to track you as you move about can be twarted by carrying them in a "Faraday Wallet" that has a bronze screen woven /laminated with the leather....energy can't get in....RFID cant get out. ....always a way around technology.....D.G. quote: Originally posted by rabbit20: quote:
this link that i posted is about the cause of cancer by the RFID implant. i posted the info about the link but i didnt see it, i just really want kary to have the implant removed!
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