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Junior Member
Registered: 11-22-07
Posts: 1
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Just a thought, but I was always told that the fish in a barrel myth used a bow and arrow, not a gun. Jaime and Adam should try that.
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Junior Member
Registered: 11-22-07
Posts: 1
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The findings in this myth, require them to go back and re-evaluate bulletproof water. because if ther is someone in water they can be killed by the shock wave just like the fish. so in bullet proof water someone might not be safe through 2 ft of water
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Member
Registered: 11-02-06
Posts: 18
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I agree they could have used live small fish. Heck with PETA, they are idiots that need to be in Bellvue.
Either way, it's obvious that the concussion alone would kill them. It's just like using M80's to fish.
They confirmed this myth easily and pretty much completely. It is easy to shoot a fish in a barrel. One shot and they float to the top.
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Senior Member
Registered: 07-30-06
Posts: 226
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(I apologize for trying to start a thread about this without checking here first.)
Surely even PETA knows how a fisherman kills fish. The fish is partially suffocated, then he shoves a knife into the fish's belly and pulls it all the way up to its neck, reaches in and yanks out the fish's guts. This is probably how the fish used to test the myth died. Shooting them would have been MORE humane if anything.
I know you guys are in San Francisco, but surely even the nutcases there know how fish are usually killed.
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Member
Registered: 05-24-07
Posts: 36
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okay lets stop worrying about whether or not the fish is dead. they just don't want complaints from people who are squeemish about watching things die, and there may very well be something in their contract about it. Other than that, don't complain about PETA either. They're just people with their own opinions on how we treat animals. they are NOT terrorists either. They don't thrive on terror. they just want their point to be known and recognized.
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Junior Member
Registered: 11-22-07
Posts: 3
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You do realize that it should be SALTED fish PACKED into a barrel, right? Ship's stores. Age of sail.
So they'd be near closest packing of fish into the barrel.
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Member
Registered: 03-07-05
Posts: 20
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The phrase "Fish in a barrel" predates 9MM handguns and, certainly, mini-guns! But I do recall a restaurant in Wheaton, IL, on the banks of the Fox River that fenced off a side channel of the Fox and kept live (farm bred?) catfish for their customers who wanted FRESH fish. When one was ordered a staff member would go out to this 'pond' with a fishing bow and arrow and, after a bit, have the customer's dinner ready to cook! Really, 'bow fishing' is not that uncommon! And it would be MUCH easier to shoot one confined to a tiny barrel than one tha was almost swimming free, no?
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Senior Member
Registered: 04-28-07
Posts: 835
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quote: Originally posted by AF_Lt: The findings in this myth, require them to go back and re-evaluate bulletproof water. because if ther is someone in water they can be killed by the shock wave just like the fish. so in bullet proof water someone might not be safe through 2 ft of water
Humans don't have lateral lines or gills, so I doubt this applies quite the same way...but who knows, they DID trip the 100g shockwatch sticker... quote: Other than that, don't complain about PETA either. They're just people with their own opinions on how we treat animals. they are NOT terrorists either. They don't thrive on terror. they just want their point to be known and recognized.
That is not true. PETA collects money from ignorant, idealistic people to "help animals" and then uses it to pay for firebombs set off in people's workplaces, homes, and cars. They pay for ALF and ELF, classified by the FBI as the most dangerous terrorist organizations in all of America. PETA would rather you die than a fish die.
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Member
Registered: 05-24-07
Posts: 36
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eh as usual, we mostly hear about the extremists. whatever. I don't feel like arguing about it.
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Senior Member
Registered: 02-19-07
Posts: 595
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if that was true why hasnt the FBI shut down PETA yet?
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Senior Member
Registered: 02-19-07
Posts: 595
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oh and btw about the shock watches, that doesnt make sense b/c that means that since we are made of mostly water no matter where you shoot a human we die since the shock wave in the test went past 100.
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Junior Member
Registered: 11-22-07
Posts: 1
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I can't believe busting the myth "Is a big Disaster". Next time if there is a next time. Use at least 5 "fish" ( more then one ) And alive not on a stick and being life like.
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Senior Member
Registered: 11-16-07
Posts: 80
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quote: Who cares?
PETA are not a legal, government, regulatory, or even moral authority. They are a terrorist organization. They do NOT have the right to run our lives.
You are an idiot. Of course they have some government influence. Animal cruelty is illegal for God's sake. Also i loved when they used the gatling gun. Iwish that i could rent an hour on that thing. It would be awesome to blast barrels to pieces. :
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Senior Member
Registered: 04-28-07
Posts: 835
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quote: Originally posted by adithsubramanian: if that was true why hasnt the FBI shut down PETA yet?
A combination of politics and prioritizing. Like most government agencies, the FBI has MANY more things on its "To-Do List" than it actually has the resources to do. So long as PETA stays off the top of the list, they don't get shut down. And politics helps keep them off the top. quote: Animal cruelty is illegal for God's sake.
If pulling a fish up out of the water and dropping it gasping on a deck, then gutting it alive, is not animal cruelty, why do you think shooting one is cruelty? It's CERTAINLY much quicker and cleaner. I don't think the laws even apply to fish anyway.
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Junior Member
Registered: 11-23-07
Posts: 1
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quote: Originally posted by jds2005: Humans don't have lateral lines or gills, so I doubt this applies quite the same way...but who knows, they DID trip the 100g shockwatch sticker...
This is the whole reason I came on and registered. I just saw the episode, and it really calls into question every single myth they used those trip sensors on, and that is a lot. I don't believe for one second, if you put a human into that barrel, shot at them with a gun (bullets missing the human of course) that the shockwave from a little bullet will kill a human. Edit: I was just thinking about it, and I bet they hit the nail on the head when they chose to use the shockwave sensors. The machine they used at the very beginning couldn't pick up the shockwave because it was too quick. I would suspect that a very brief exposure to 150g is probably not lethal (by very quick, I'm thinking of to the nanosecond). This really would invalidate the results of every time they used those shock sensors.
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Junior Member
Registered: 11-23-07
Posts: 1
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hmm, my first post here. well this is actually due to me making some art and not finding any way to actually send it to the guys, so I figured I'd post it here. I imagine they'll see it, and all of you might get a laugh out of it too - especially if you know Ursula Vernon. Anyway, here's the link. http://oscelot.deviantart.com/art/Frankenfish-WIP-70466290enjoy!
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Junior Member
Registered: 08-01-05
Posts: 1
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I guess this episode points out the difference between rural knowledge and urban knowledge. Dynamite has been the fish poacher’s bait of choice for a long time. It is really bad for exotic fish locations, the poacher stuns the fish, takes the ones he wants and leaves the rest for easy picking for predators. FYI, Vermont has a fish shooting season. Obviously, it is more of an oddity then a hunting adventure. Google “Vermont Fish shooting season” for info.
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Junior Member
Registered: 11-12-07
Posts: 2
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I can't believe I am the fist to point out that shockwaves should play no role in this "myth" at all. The expression is "as easy as SHOOTING fish in a barrel" not "killing fish in a barrel".
Now lets see the gang tackle "more fun than a barrel of monkeys". Something tells me that neither PETA nor the monkeys will like this one.
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Senior Member
Registered: 11-17-05
Posts: 76
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Agreed, ChazR. I was wondering if the next myth they were going to test was falling off a log...
(But really - you had a MINIGUN and the best use you could come up with was shooting a barrel of fish??? It looked like you could have gotten through a cinder block wall with that thing!)
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Senior Member
Registered: 11-15-07
Posts: 208
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While it was surprising they brought in a huge gun to shoot a fish in a barrel I was more surprised that they brought a gun which was mounted to the top of an suv which looked completely stock when the gun wasn't up.
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