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Originally posted by BurningCat:

Uh, no, they can't.

Uh yes to a degree they can. I could tell you what state with some that I was familiar with.

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No, you don't, and no, you can't. Information on reconnaissance capabilities is classified, and revealing such capabilities is strictly forbidden by your clearance agreement - which you would know, if you had one

That just goes to show, how little you know. After 20 years an NDA is voided. My clearance agreement as with most of my NDA's have all expired. I am now not under any obligation to not discuss what i know anylonger. Besides which most of what i now know is old news and in most cases common public knowledge. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. What you are implying is all Hollywood ideas of how things work. So stop watching 24, and taking it for truth. Oh and yes i did read Highway signs via telemetry. In fact i was recognized for doing so. And as for straight down imagery. You are correct. But like most of your statements you are also wrong. Not all imagery is straight down. When tasked to do so any satellite can take an oblique image. In fact its how most are retasked to last minute locales. Otherwise in most cases it would take hours to retask an asset at which by then what was needed would have already been done and over with. Problems with oblique images is that its usually over longer distances making resolution less.

Hey, if anyone manages to get back to the moon set, look for a set of keys with a purple rabbit's foot on it. I'd really like it back.

I can be reached here...

*Herring*

I found keys for a 76' AMC Pacer with a PB bunny key fob. Yours?

PB bunny...

Ummm, yeah...I believe that's mine...ummm, yeah...

Now...I left a roll of twenties around here...

Got that too. If you can name the person on the front its yours.

Uhhhh...Alexander Keith! Samuel Adams! Moosehead Lager! Budwer! Anheuser-Busch! Surly Furious! August Schell! I SWEAR TO GAD...I DON'T REMEMBER! AHHHHHHghhhhhhhh.....(sob..sob).

What the...

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If you can name the person on the front its yours.

Easy question...

It was Samuel Adams, errr Alexander Keith, ...ummm... oh! Yeah! It was Victoria Bitter...wait a minute... come to think of it, it was James Squire! Yup! it was Squire on the face. Uh huh!

Ooooh... close but no... Mine says Pennybags.

the myth that our heroes could get access to Hubble Telescope or NASA stuff is plausible at best. I think a much more likely myth would be "the US had the technology to fake the moon landing" (to have the team see if they could create comparable footage using technology available at the time) That wouldn't require use of any spectacular equipment and a "busted" result would be very interesting

Since you apparently haven't read this thread or any of the many other ones on this "myth": The Hubble can't resolve the landers on the Moon-they would have to be the size of a football stadium to even show up as a dot on Hubble's imager. It would be a total waste of time to try and "fake" the footage. The technology wasn't even remotely close to having the capacity to do it back in the day and it isn't good enough now to fool anyone with a slight sophistication of what they are watching.

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Originally posted by coranthulle:
That just goes to show, how little you know. After 20 years an NDA is voided. My clearance agreement as with most of my NDA's have all expired. I am now not under any obligation to not discuss what i know anylonger.

Nope, this PROVES you have NEVER had a clearance. Your clearance is not covered under an NDA it is covered under the Security of Information Act. All classified material remains classified until it has been declassified, there are no exceptions. If you revile classified information you can and will be charged. If you had ever had a security clearance you would know that.

theTroll

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If you had ever had a security clearance you would know that.

Funny. My paperwork for my TS/SCI says 75 years unless renewed.

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Funny. My paperwork for my TS/SCI says 75 years unless renewed.

If the material you have had access to is still classified and should you still be alive 75 years later, It will be renewed.

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After 20 years an NDA is voided. My clearance agreement as with most of my NDA's have all expired. I am now not under any obligation to not discuss what i know anylonger.

Uh - totally, completely wrong. If you really believe this is true, I urge you to contact whoever your security manager was/is and get yourself re-educated on this point. Even if the program you were working on is declassified, and the most minute details about if are trumpeted on the front page of the New York Times for weeks on end, this does NOT release you from your secrecy agreement. Without specific, written permission from the head of the program or their designate, you are bound by the agreement forever.

In many cases, such permission is easily obtained. But you need it. Again, I strongly urge you to get in contact with your security administrator to clarify this, before you get yourself into a world of trouble.

If you knew what it was i was working on then you would know why it was only 20 years, and why its expired. You are mostly right about the 75 years thing, and thats all i will say. As for my security clearance, i didnt say that the two were connected. I know the difference. My security clearance expiration allows me to acknowledge what i was involved with, just no details that were covered by NDA's. There are more than one you know. Well at least if you were as smart as you think you are and did all the research you think you should have you would already know that. I am not, nor will i ever be in any trouble anytime soon. I know what i can talk about and what i cant. As for security manager, i was the assistant cooridinator for my group so Im pretty well versed there. The 75 year NDA is only for TS stuff. Lesser degrees of NDA's are drawn up for lesser classified content.

Besides this thread is about the moon landing, lets get back on topic here and stop niggling about inconsequential minutia.

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lets get back on topic here and stop niggling about inconsequential minutia.

But you brought it up. KH-13 wasn't launched yet. KH-12 doesn't have the resolution, especially with refraction and diffraction.

Sorry to be on topic, but the 1969 moon landing on CBS (Walter Cronkite) is one of my earliest memories. I'm afraid I'm with those who posit that a really convincing fake would've been more difficult to pull off than the real thing.

It's funny how these conspiracy people always gloss by the fact that the USSR has never said anything about the moonlandings being fake, they were in the race and would have had both the equipment to follow the apollo and a reason to publicize any attempt to fake it.