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Junior Member
Registered: 04-26-07
Posts: 1
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I also would like them to try this. I would also like to see them try other myths to save gas. The gas companies are killing us with their excuses about why they need to keep raising prices. They continue to set profit records and tell us with a straight face "we're not doing anything wrong" BULL!!! If there is any way to stick it to these jerks,we need to know. I received an email once saying that if we put in smaller amounts of gas per fill up, it would cause a surplus because they couldn't get rid of the supplies fast enough. In other words, they would drop the price because they would have too much fuel sitting while more was on the way or something like that. I wonder if there can be some statistical testing to see if this would work in theory. Anyhow, proving or disproving any myths about saving gas would be a highly rated show given the climate of gas prices.
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Senior Member
Registered: 09-11-06
Posts: 2024
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[quote]I also would like them to try this.[/quote]
They did. It failed miserably; mileage decreased when acetone was added.
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Junior Member
Registered: 04-24-07
Posts: 4
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Well Saki you have to look at it this way.... If one would go to the gas station and put say 2 gallons of gas every day instead of 14 gallons once a week, the gas station would have to use 6 times more the resources to get your money in the ways of ink, paper, etc. Depending on the size of the holding tanks, the companies would have to send a steady stream of gas trucks. However, when a person goes to a gas station, they often impulse buy junk food or snowglobes or something. Also, I believe that gas stations already have trucks going to them very often. I am not sure of thier schedules. So, I dont belive that it would do anything to negatively affect gas companies by purchasing gas more often in small amounts.
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Junior Member
Registered: 05-30-07
Posts: 4
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Though the Mythbusters busted it, evidence from all over the internet confirms the myth, except in California, where the Mythbusters tape.
California has different gasoline than the rest of the country. There are numerous additives in California's gas that may affect the Mythbuster's results.
I think this myth should be revisited using gasoline from another state.
The results from many different websites are that the acetone isn't as effective as an additive in California.
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Junior Member
Registered: 06-02-07
Posts: 1
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I also would like them to revisit this one. I remember them testing this one and do not remember the ratio they used. Maybe someone could get that data and post it. I don't beleive that they used more than one ratio, which could have been there downfall. I am not saying that this does/does not work but I thnk it would be a great topic for a revisit.
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Senior Member
Registered: 12-11-04
Posts: 3761
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[quote]Though the Mythbusters busted it, evidence from all over the internet confirms the myth, except in California, where the Mythbusters tape.[/quote]
What evidence ? At best you can call it hearsay. I call it a bunch of wild claims by people that do not know how to conduct a scientific test.
As far as gasoline being different, yes CA insists on cleaner burning gas than many parts of the country. But if you have a city or a region that "copies" the CA standard, they would get the same formulation.
Regional requirements for "cleaner gas" do vary around the country. A few years ago, the gas you bought in Phoenix, was different than what was availible in the rest of Arizona.
You belief that the slightly different formulations throw off the benefits of acetone is simply wishful thinking. Acetone contains fewer btu's per gallon than gasoline. The more gasoline you displace with acetone, the more of the gasoline/acetone mixture will be required to get the number of BTU's required by the engine.
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Senior Member
Registered: 05-19-05
Posts: 67
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If it is a surface tension thing, then it will have different results for different cars. There are a lot of engineers working very hard on the way engines atomize gasoline. These are probably very efficient when new, and any changes to the surface tension of the fuel will only make things worse.
An older engine may not be designed so well, or just have gunk built up on the valves then diminish the atomization. These engines might benefit from a change in the properties of the fuel.
In the end, I think the results will vary from car to car, some getting better some getting worse.
I recommend people try getting a tune up first.
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Junior Member
Registered: 08-28-07
Posts: 4
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I have used acetone in my last two tanks i drive a 99 mercury cougar v6 2.5 I got 24mpg and now after adding 3ounces to my tank each fill up of 16 gallons i get 30mpg. My car seems to run a little better too but nothing big. I believe it wont break down any gaskets or rubber components as acetone is know to do because of the acetone being so diluted with gasoline. I will post if anything goes wrong with my car.
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Junior Member
Registered: 08-28-07
Posts: 4
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quote: Originally posted by jordanlund:
This argument was bouncing around for a while and I decided to not wait and test it myself.
I don't own a car, but I do have a 49cc motor scooter that automatically mixes gas and oil together. The tank holds just about a gallon of gas.
I began tracking the mileage with regular gas over many tanks then switched to gas + 1oz. acetone. The measurements are in kilometers (my scooter's odometer measures in kilometers) with a conversion to miles (K * .62).
I'll show the odometer reading followed by the difference from the previous reading in both Kilometers and Miles.)
Regular gas:
Tank 1 - 61.65K
Tank 2 - 144.9K (difference of 83.25K or 51.615M)
Tank 3 - 234.9K (90K or 55.8M)
Tank 4 - 302.9K (68K or 42.16M - NOTE, this was at 1/4 tank, not completely empty)
Tank 5 - 386.9K (84K or 52.08M)
Tank 6 - 469.3K (82.4K or 51.088M)
Tank 7 - 552.5K (83.2K or 51.584M)
Tank 8 - 634.1K (81.6K or 50.592M)
Tank 9 - 719.2K (85.1K or 52.762M)
Tank 10 - 799.9 (80.7K or 50.034M)
Tank 11 - 879.4 (79.5K or 49.29M)
Average miles per fill-up without acetone - 50.7005 (counting the one tank at 1/4 full).
Tank 11 was the first tank that I began to mix acetone with the gas.
Tank 11 - 879.4K
Tank 12 - 942.2K (Difference of 62.8K or 38.936M)
Tank 13 - 1013.3K (71.1K or 44.082M)
Tank 14 - 1093.2K (79.9K or 49.538M)
Tank 15 - 1170.9K (77.7K or 48.174M)
At this point I'm showing an average with acetone of 45.1825 miles per fill up, that's 5.518 miles less than using plain gas alone.
There's no point going forward with the test since adding acetone, at least in my case, is showing to be detrimental to mileage.
Now I should state this test isn't perfect. I did not fill up at the same gas station (or even with the same brand of gas) every single time. I filled up at whichever station was convenient for me at the time I ran out.
I sure that your scooter hold about two gallons +1 ounce of acetone when it is said to put 2 ounces per 10 gallons do the math you engine is over com busting because acetone is more flammable than pump fuel I would try half that because if you use over 2ounces per 10 gallons your gas millage will drop because of the leaner you engine will run. |
Junior Member
Registered: 10-29-07
Posts: 1
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a friend if mine just tried this and noticed 100miles per 1/4 tank as opposed to the 75 miles per 1/4 tank that he normally gets... my my concern, as well as his is the breakdown of the fuel system by the acetone... by the way, I just changed the gear oil in my manual tranny and differential, as well as changed my fuel filter and oil filter, all with full synthetic fluids and noticed a difference in gas mileage, we'll see how it goes for the rest of the tank. I want to get a baseline with the tune up before I test out the acetone.
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Senior Member
Registered: 09-11-06
Posts: 2024
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quote: Though the Mythbusters busted it, evidence from all over the internet confirms the myth
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! Gawd, the idiocy displayed on this thread is hilarious! |
Senior Member
Registered: 11-23-06
Posts: 1069
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PLEASE people; stop talking about acetone. If used as an additive, can you imagine the price rise in the removal of my fingernail paint?
Thank you,
Boy George
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Junior Member
Registered: 04-23-08
Posts: 1
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Count my vote for this myth as well. I'd also like to see it tested with diesel engines. Diesel fuel just hit $4.20/gal here in Houston. We gotta do something and I don't belive the hybrid or hydrogen cars are the answer. Haven't seen one yet that can pull a 10,000lb trailer.
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Senior Member
Registered: 07-12-07
Posts: 3979
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Vince, it was already tested and busted.
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Senior Member
Registered: 03-21-08
Posts: 710
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quote: Vince, it was already tested and busted.
I must have missed that episode. Do you know if they tried it on diesel engines? |
Junior Member
Registered: 05-01-08
Posts: 2
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My experience with this Acetone is I didn't get noticeable increase. I varied between l oz -3 oz in .5 oz increments per 10 gal of gas. (along with 1 oz of xylene). I did make engine run smoother and quielter. But this didn't justify the added cost.
Vehicle '07 town and Country Van.
1 have fill up data going back a few months , and I do a lot of driving. at these low concentrations it won't hurt rubber
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Junior Member
Registered: 06-08-08
Posts: 1
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can anyone direct this newie on which Episode cover this acetone debate? is this something that we can watch online? thanks in advance.
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Senior Member
Registered: 06-03-07
Posts: 7555
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http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=mythbusters+episode+guide&spell=1
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Senior Member
Registered: 07-12-07
Posts: 3979
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Caveguard:
> Though the Mythbusters busted it, evidence from all over the internet
> confirms the myth, except in California, where the Mythbusters tape.
>
> California has different gasoline than the rest of the country. There
> are numerous additives in California's gas that may affect the
> Mythbuster's results.
>
> I think this myth should be revisited using gasoline from another
> state.
>
> The results from many different websites are that the acetone isn't
> as effective as an additive in California.
Translation:
“I reject your reality, and substitute my own!”
Sorry, I just couldn’t help myself this time around.
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Junior Member
Registered: 08-24-08
Posts: 1
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First off, I'd just like to say I'd like to see this myth proved. And to the comment on the whole gas companies thing, if they'd already know they wouldn't add it in. If they did they'd make you come back less often, and that's not what they want. They want you to come more often. So they wouldn't do that, but they may already know.
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