[quote]I should know better myself but my background in firearms allows me some degree of stupidity[/quote]

The really sad thing is...he probably actually believes that statement.

I agree with LabB on this comment.

I am new to the boards saw this and just wanted to put my 2 cents in. Not here to start anything. Of course a normal bullet cant curve in the air. Too fast + rifling = straight. But if you had say an spherical ball (like what was used in a musket) and the rifling was moddified I would think maybe. I am no expert but they have paintball barrels that will curve paintballs like in the movie wanted. And at the beginning of the movie, the gun he used to curve the bullet was shot from an real old looking gun. Here is a like to the paintball barrels...

http://www.pbreview.com/paintball-articles/guns-equipment-supplies/62_next-gen-paintball-gun-can-shoot-around-corners--enter-the-bt-paintball-designs-apex-barrel

AMC.

To quote master_sergeant:

Sigh...

Now that this thread has inexplicably spilled over into its 14th page, it's more obvious that posters are putting in their two cents without reading the whole thing. I don't blame you for not wanting to read an entire thread that has gone on for several pages. After all, I wouldn't sit down and read 200+ pages on the PoaT thread before posting.

However, in this case, spherical projectiles like paintballs, bb's, cannons, and musket balls, were mentioned in the very first post on this thread. So, here goes:

Sigh....

Great job SchroedingersCat!

thx now i can finaly prove to my friends that chrcing a bulite is imposible

i've tryed befroe

schoolmaster, is spelling a part of your curiculum?

If anyone sees someone creating a new forum about the bullet curving, redirect them here. I'm sick and tired of calling people idiots in a way that isn't directly calling them an idiot.

I personally believe it is possible, not just because of the power point that was posted here, but because the bullets they use have more than just etching on them. For those of you that have seen the movie, you'll know what i'm talking about. For those of you that haven't, it'll be hard to picture what i'm talking about.

Example 1: The bullet that hit him in the shoulder when he was chasing cross (near his apartment), it had a weird curvy tail thing coming off the back of it and it only went down one side, and that bullet was curved (not in a corkscrew, but a simple arc).

Example 2: the sniper bullet. Even though it followed the natural arc of bullets (downward via gravity), the bullet itself (not including the casing) had three section, and the final section had a lot of etching and a weird corkscrew going down both sides.

I'm not making an arguement as to whether it's possible or not, i'm just saying they used some crazy bullets that may have made it easier/more possible to curve the bullet.

[quote]i'm just saying they used some crazy bullets that may have made it easier/more possible to curve the bullet.[/quote]


But you see, they didn't use real bullets in the movie.

Those types of bullets only exist in the minds of the writers, and the CGI folks who created them with computer programs.

I agree that the bullets were fake, but what i'm saying is that if we wanted to recreate the curving bullet, it MAY be easier if you use the same rounds they did, CGI or not.

[quote]I agree that the bullets were fake, but what i'm saying is that if we wanted to recreate the curving bullet, it MAY be easier if you use the same rounds they did, CGI or not.[/quote]

It would be rather difficult to handload a CGI bullet into a real shell case.

this argument has been beaten to death. the show has always been about the "spirit of the myth". the spirit of this myth is a futile argument against the laws of physics. the laws of physics are absolute. the side arguments here are just not in the spirit of the myth. all that is being accomplished here is we're giving a few well educated people a hard time, while others reiterate the same physical impossibility. stop the madness.

braniaq-- interesting point. if you haven't already, set up your own topic about that idea, firing a bullet from a fast train at a non-perpendicular angle to see the results. but on this topic it is beside the point. (to be blunt, about 65% of this 14 pages is also beside the actual point)

that was supposed to be a confused smiley. the ??? didn't show.

Doomsday: Do you really think they went and hired a bunch of professors or researchers to study different bullet shapes and come up with one that would curve? Do you think they sat down and modeled these bullets, maybe ran some CFD programs to figure out what they would do? Do you think they labored for weeks or months and held meetings with these educated people to try and determine how to design a bullet that could curve predictably?

Or do you think maybe the artists and designers just sat down for a bit, sketched something out, and then said "Hey that looks pretty cool, let's go with that?"

Are you really not capable of separating fiction from reality? The two don't necessarily have to intersect somewhere. The entire concept was completely made up, and already you are starting with the (wildly incorrect) assumption that they only put it in the movie because it was grounded in some sort of reality.

Wake up. It's a movie. IT'S A MOVIE. No matter how many times it's repeated that this is FICTION and that they can make up whatever special effects they want THAT HAVE NO BASIS IN REALITY, people come on here and say "lol I know but what about this?"

Blah blah blah. Shut up already, all of you. This is a stupid CGI stunt and absolutely NOTHING more.

The way i see it, i would still like to see this myth proven false. physics can prove most of the myths shown as either false or confirmed, but the general community dont trust the equasion. like the myth from Underworld where whats her name shot a section of the floor out from under herself with 2X 9mm. and if i recall, she even fired off a couple rounds before starting on the floor in the first place. cinimatics can make many things seem possible, i enjoy seeing the proof even though i know its impossable in the first place ^_^

I find it simply amazing that this topic - a trick so obviously at odds with the laws that govern our universe - has spawned no less than 14 pages of denial, wishful thinking, fantasy, anti-logic, confusion and spam-think.

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[quote]I find it simply amazing that this topic - a trick so obviously at odds with the laws that govern our universe - has spawned no less than 14 pages of denial, wishful thinking, fantasy, anti-logic, confusion and spam-think.[/quote]

The most intelligent topic I've seen since I've been a member was a topic on the varying weight of an hourglass while the sand inside is falling. It was difficult to visualize in my head, and I managed to find two published papers on the subject to help answer it. It ended up being a good discussion for those members who participated, and the result could only be arrived at by calculus and an understanding of Newton's laws of motion. A very intelligent post, indeed.

It died at three pages.

However, the topic of this post, which is so simple to understand I'm sure Isaac Newton is turning is grave, just won't end.

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I just want to remind you that all the money you collect will be full of government Mind Control Devices, and so you should send it all to me as I am trained to safely quarantine the MCDs.