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Junior Member
Registered: 11-06-09
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I couldn't find this anywhere.

I heard that in some places you need to register your self as a deadly weapon if you complete a certain type of belt/martial arts/fighting training. Or sign something with your local authorities after completion of training.

I also heard this was a myth started in the 60's.

Any idea?
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Registered: 01-06-09
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Possible.

Most martial arts now a days have been modernized to have the purpose of simply defeating an opponent, where the original purpose of martial arts were to kill your opponent (not exactly true, but that's generally the outcome, as it wasn't wise to leave a person bent on killing you alive). Training in an "ancient" form of martial arts could make one an efficient hand-to-hand killer if they so inclined. Most techniques taught now are taught with the purpose of simply beating up the opponent, or defending yourself, whereas they were taught with the intent to kill as necessary, now a days it's rarely necessary to do so.
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Registered: 05-13-06
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I heard that in some places you need to register your self as a deadly weapon if you complete a certain type of belt/martial arts/fighting training.


Wouldn't that mean you would have to be issued a Concealed Weapons Permit to wear gloves or clothing and on the other side, you could only Open Carry in a nudist colony? Eek

I reckon thats just a myth, seems I first heard it in an old movie. I've never heard of an actual case of someone being required to "register their hands", etc as lethal weapons. If that were the case, nearly everyone would be required to register their hands or body as a weapon as nearly everyone has the capability of killing someone else with their bare hands.

Nothing for the MB to test here.
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Registered: 09-01-07
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As far as I know you only have to register if you turn professonal - that is compeate in that sport as a professonal.

In this case you don't register with the police, but with which ever authority deals with that sport.

Otherwise, as far as I can tell from English law and the crown prosecution service, all that matters if what you do and what your intent was at the time.
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Registered: 07-14-07
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If I remember correctly, I first heard this out of the mouth of Maxwell Smart, Agent 86.
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Registered: 08-21-09
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I reckon thats just a myth, seems I first heard it in an old movie. I've never heard of an actual case of someone being required to "register their hands", etc as lethal weapons. If that were the case, nearly everyone would be required to register their hands or body as a weapon as nearly everyone has the capability of killing someone else with their bare hands.

Britain is one step away from banning hands Wink
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Registered: 09-24-09
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Pretty sure this myth stems from the WWII era where martial arts were outlawed. There were records of black belt martial artists kept on record when there was Japanese Internment camps. After words when the "List" was let go the "registered as a deadly weapon" began to be used for promotional purposes. There are "Orginizations" you can register with that will issue you a certificate stating that X is a deadly weapon. But there is no law in the US stating that You have to register if you're a black belt and such. Other wise every domestic abuse case could be considered "Assualt with a Deadly Weapon"
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Registered: 08-21-09
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I should mention that most martial arts involve some type of weapon, be it a stick, a knife, or a sword. In fact, most prefer to use a weapon, as it gives them a bit more reach, and better defense.

I also remember the movie ConAir. Nick Cages character kills a mugger, and since he was trained in unarmed combat, he was found guilty of manslaughter cause he could of been more in control and NOT killed the guy (yea, BS i know)
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Registered: 01-21-07
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Originally posted by Ghene:
Pretty sure this myth stems from the WWII era where martial arts were outlawed. There were records of black belt martial artists kept on record when there was Japanese Internment camps. After words when the "List" was let go the "registered as a deadly weapon" began to be used for promotional purposes. There are "Orginizations" you can register with that will issue you a certificate stating that X is a deadly weapon. But there is no law in the US stating that You have to register if you're a black belt and such. Other wise every domestic abuse case could be considered "Assualt with a Deadly Weapon"


Well, in WW2 martial arts were only outlawed within the internment camps. There was still plenty of judo/jujitsu training going on at Allied training bases...
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Registered: 10-23-09
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I am ex boxer, amateur boxer. There is a low regarding when I can fight, and what is considered self defense, in my case. For example, i can not fight single opponent, unless he attack me with lethal weapon, knife for example. In Serbia, I can end up in jail even if i don't seriously hurt someone, if he decide to press charges. Even my friend, who is olimpic javelin thrower, is banned from hitting whit his right hand, and my brother, who is football (soccer) player is banned from kicking someone. I do not know about lows in US, but I think that those lows are international.
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Registered: 02-03-08
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I know that here, a competitive boxer, who was employed driving a delivery truck, was involved in a road rage incident. the other driver swung first, the delivery driver swung second, third, and fourth. the other driver tried to have the delivery driver charges with assault, since as a boxer, he should have been aware of the damage he could do.

didn't work.
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Registered: 10-15-09
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I have heard this as a joke in sitcoms The poser charsacter says "I must by law warn you that these hands are regestered as letial weopans!" Then the bully says, "So is the chain in my pocket." I have always heard that this was a myth, but "always heard" and truth are not always in agreement, which is why MYTHBUSTERS exists. With the courts acting political as they are right now, do we really want this law? How would this be inturprited? Would I considered a deadly kung-fu killer because I have a Bruce Lee movie? What that guy from Serbia is saying about other countries is frightening.
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