I also would like to point out, that when I qualified with the .50 cal; it does knock down rifle targets just by going near them without actually hitting them.
Let me guess, you were in the Army, shooting the "unknown distance" range, the little green men fell down, but you thought it was a near miss because the tracer looked like it went to the side, or over the target.
I also would like to point out, that when I qualified with the .50 cal; it does knock down rifle targets just by going near them without actually hitting them.
I can't use enough exclamation points and profanity to properly address the nonsense of this post.
Goes to show somebody hasn't even read the content of the thread inorder to prevent themselves from looking flatly ignorant.
I'll pit my experiences firing my own 50BMG at a wide variety of targets including some very fragile living creatures where a miss by mere inches did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to so much as even rustle a feather.
Suggesting otherwise is ignorant rumor mongering. Maybe there is something else to explain what you witnessed, especially if they are motorized plastic targets that are designed to drop on account of a perceived impact. That would be something worth investigating using a scientific method. There could potentially be a frequency of sound that mimics the conditions the electronic target system is tuned to for when a bullet impacts the plastic target, whether it's possible for a sonic crack of a bullet reverberating off the plastic target to fool the system into believing there was a hit is another matter.
But bullet passing close to the target knocking it down.
Absolutely shredded as being a false claim/rumor.
Simply watch the 50BMG they fire down the path of several dozen glass objects in the test of the sonic boom myths. 50BMG bullet passing within mere inches of various types of glass ware, they didn't fracture, they didn't budge, they didn't do ANYTHING until the bullet actually impacted directly with the medium.
I also would like to point out, that when I qualified with the .50 cal; it does knock down rifle targets just by going near them without actually hitting them.
Well that gave me my laugh for today. Sadly there will be those who will foolishly believe this inane statement.
You don't need a .50 cal to defeat 90% of bullet resistant vests. ANY high powered rifle will penetrate an vest rated below III. No vest currently made will stop a .50 BMG
Originally posted by taylor.e.olson: I want to see different variations of the M2 .50 cal HB machine gun's headspace and timing after fired.
I also would like to point out, that when I qualified with the .50 cal; it does knock down rifle targets just by going near them without actually hitting them.
I am calling BS on this and you your time when you qualified. When exactly was this and what type of range did you do this on exactly? As a range master and instructor in the Army I have seen more than my fair share ranges all over the world and different qual courses. I have also had 50 cal rounds pass uncomfortably close by me with no ill effect at all. The annoying loud pop is about as bad as it gets.
So yeah, I am calling you out on this BS post. Please share with the class more about this and your background.
The biggest thing I have heard about the .50 is that if it pierces a tank, the soldier would literally be sucked out of the hole due to the intense pressure. Apparently, they even tell this to our soldiers during basic training, as I remember a new Marine I was friends with told us about how they claimed that on D-Day, tanks shot with .50 cal rounds were sucked out of the tank.
Mythbusters, please test this .50 cal, soldier being sucked out a tank myth as well as "soldiers being ripped apart" myth.
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Well, I know from experience that a .50 can do some damage. I have seen the aftermath of a .50 ripping through a man at the hips, taking his leggs off. And about the bank vault thing, you only mention AP, how about API?
You may not believe, but I was one of the 1st responders to the scene. there was no amputation because the man was dead within seconds. Call BS all you want, but I was there...
ok, your obviously some genius, tell me then, if not from the round, then why was is lower half no longer attached to his upper? You must know, since you've either owned or used these weapons. Which, I have too.
I am willing to bet that you are simply full of it.
If you are not, then there has to be another factor you are not accounting for. Like a type of explosive he was carrying, or something similar. We have seen that happen.
Originally posted by usgunner04: Well, I know from experience that a .50 can do some damage. I have seen the aftermath of a .50 ripping through a man at the hips, taking his leggs off. And about the bank vault thing, you only mention AP, how about API?
I've seen with my own eyes what .50 can do to a man when I was serving in the army of Serbia and Montenegro (Serbian army at the moment). IT CAN NOT SLICE A MAN IN TWO!!! Not even a 20mm canon wont do this if it is using AP rounds (HE just don't slice it splatters, but it can detach legs from body). It will do some terrible tings but it will not slice a man in half. Same goes to the tank armor, you can as well throw golf bolls at it. It can punch through armor of lighter armored cars, and even then it would only kill those that are hit by it or the fragments. it does not create any suction at all. Through the body armor it will punch most of the time (depending on angle and range it was fired), and it would kill you even if it doesn't (broken bones, internal bleeding). I also don't understand why there is so much fuss about .50. My opinion is that this bullet is only good for intimidation. It has it's limited uses (I'm talking about snipers), but it is not good for all around usage. Given the choice, I chose 7.9mm M76 sniper rifle every time(you can see civilian version this rifle at www.zastava-arms.co.rs). It is lighter, you can carry more ammo, you can move quicker,you can rapidly fire several rounds quickly if needed and it generates less noise(which means you don't have to shift position as often), but range and power of ZASTAVA LK M93 "Crna strela"(M93 "BLACK ARROW" cal. 50 Browning you can also see at the www.zastava-arms.co.rs) you will need rarely, and only for the specialized tasks. (Sorry if my English is bad ).
i served in the marines as a sniper for 12 years and i have used a .50cal rifle many many times and i have seen what happens when a round hits a person... for example when we were on a mission to stop a convoy we are trained to shoot out the engine block to imobilize the truck all together.... on this perticular mission we were shooting from a distance of 2000 yards, one of the other teams that was on the mission fired and missed their target of the engine block and it hit the driver through the windshield.... and lets just say that there wasnt much left of the guy driving the truck and everyone else in the truck was covered in their friend....
part of your information concerning the .50 blowing people apart is circumstantial. the barret uses a .50 round.. but it uses .50 Incindiary rounds that explode when they hit thier targets.. ive seen a video from a real combat zone where a barret was used to snipe targets off a cliff; when it hit the first guy he WAS thrown into the air, and you can clearly see a body part flying in the other direction. the other guy they shot in the head and his head was disentigrated into a red mist. this video alone is why i do not like this gun for anti infantry purposed. if i had the video id likn it but i dont. partially because it was probably shot by someone with a portable camcorder and not hosted anywhere anymore
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