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That started in the Korean War when a soldier mated a .50 caliber barrel to a Russian anti-tank gun receiver and mounted a 20 power scope on it. He was taking out North Koreans and Chinese "volunteers" at 1,500 yards - WITH the high explosive rounds.

Well, that's a new one on me, here all the time I thought it was Gunnery Sergeant Carlos Hathcock in Vietnam that first mounted a scope on a .50 cal.

I was wondering, is the .50 cal. the same type of gun that Burt Gummer uses in Tremors 2? The one that went through a tremor, a wall, a cars gas tank, and several other various objects. Or perhaps the same gun the sniper girl used in Smokin' Aces? I believe it was also known as an anti-tank gun. I just wanted to know if someone could clarify that for me. Thanks.

Please read the frigging thread before you post.

Wow... that's a polite way to answer a reasonable question. Oh, and by the way, i had just finished reading this thread when I posted that message, and I don't remember any references to either of the movies I was talking about. Thanks again.

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Wow... that's a polite way to answer a reasonable question. Oh, and by the way, i had just finished reading this thread when I posted that message, and I don't remember any references to either of the movies I was talking about. Thanks again.

Yes I know that it did not say if it was used in either of those movies. But I knew what your next question was going to be. Call it a preemptive strike, because someone mentions Tremors 2 several times a week.

But in answer to your question. Yes it was of a similar type to the one used in Tremors 2, I never saw Smokin' Aces.

Thank you, that was all I wanted to know. Also, what was the question you thought I'd ask next?
I'm going to guess you thought I'd ask if it could actually do that. But I honestly just asked, because I liked those guns, and they sounded similar to the .50 cal. Sorry if I gave you the wrong impression.

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Originally posted by typical_is_back_again:
I never saw Smokin' Aces.

It was yet another Barrett M82A1....

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Originally posted by armynurseboi:
It was yet another Barrett M82A1....

And thank you as well.

Cool!

that was an excellent post with great research. I am so tired of hearing people that have no idea about ballitics and seen too many John Woo movies talk about a weapon they have never even touched, let alone fire or use.

Bernie, would you mind if I use some of the research you have done in the brief on the other site?

Also, while we all know how it will turn out, who would like to see this tested on the show?

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Also, while we all know how it will turn out, who would like to see this tested on the show?

You know I'm all for that, Typ. It's not really any less "obvious" than some of the other Mythbusters tests, and it might put a dent in the PTD questioning.

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Originally posted by typical_is_back_again:
Bernie, would you mind if I use some of the research you have done in the brief on the other site?

Also, while we all know how it will turn out, who would like to see this tested on the show?

Go ahead Typical. One thing that I haven't thought about is that maybe a show on .50 myths may help educate some of the people out there who think that .50 cal rifles should be banned. Most of their info comes from what the VPC and Brady Bunch say. On the other hand it may provide some additional data for these loons to use when they try to convince other loons that no person has any legitimate use for a .50.

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Go ahead Typical. One thing that I haven't thought about is that maybe a show on .50 myths may help educate some of the people out there who think that .50 cal rifles should be banned. Most of their info comes from what the VPC and Brady Bunch say. On the other hand it may provide some additional data for these loons to use when they try to convince other loons that no person has any legitimate use for a .50.

Very true. It kind of seems to be a loose loose situation doesn't it? Thanks, you can post it there if you want.

Theres a person who has made it through college =^_^=

I have seen combat video from snipers in Afghanistan of people literally exploding into chunks after being hit with 50 cal sniper rounds.

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I have seen combat video from snipers in Afghanistan of people literally exploding into chunks after being hit with 50 cal sniper rounds.

No you didn't. If you are referring to what is floating around out there on YouTube and the like, what you saw was neither 'combat footage', Afghanistan nor a .50cal rifle in action. That video was pirated and mislabeled.

Regardless of what ballistic gels can show in a lab I have seen, first hand accounts, of a 50 ripping a torso in half. There are two declassified photos from the DoD proving this. Unless you have compared the M2 with the M82 and M107 then the test is not complete. Different barrels, spin patterns, tumbling ranges, velocities and round types. I do not want an argument because noone can disprove what I witnessed unless they were in the Al Hilla in May of 03.
2nd: The AP round is not Depleted Uranium. A DU round is the only round that can penetrate the hull of an M1A1 main battle tank, which is comprised of DU and a classified combination of ceramics and steel. The DU round is a self sharpening kinetic energy round that requires a steel or tougher target in order to operate to it's full capacity.
FACT: If you fire a 50 cal. DU round at a 1" plate of rolled armor it will slice through it like butter.

Well, if they're declassified, why not link to them instead of blowing smoke up our butts?

And perhaps link to the .50 DU rounds, because they're not in the FM 9-13.

The regular AP rounds will handle 25mm RHA... but a .50, even a magic DU one if it existed, will not go through an equivalent 1200mm of RHA. Hell, the regular M1 incend and M2 ball will go through 19mm, M33 ball will do 21mm and the SLAPs will do 34.

Oh, and that's not quite how DU rounds work. They're pyrophoric and ignite on impact.