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Junior Member
Registered: 11-07-09
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can you really silence a gun by sticking the mussil in a pillow and firing it?
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Registered: 09-01-07
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Mythbusters will not be doing any silencer myths.
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Registered: 07-28-09
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But the answer is still no.
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Registered: 07-24-07
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quote:
Originally posted by pedroman59:
can you really silence a gun by sticking the mussil in a pillow and firing it?


What do mollusks have to do with silencers...
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Registered: 04-19-09
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Maybe it's a mussel loader.
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Originally posted by cybermortis:
Mythbusters will not be doing any silencer myths.


Considering we're seeing this in every movie, i don't think it would make any difference testing it or not. It's a simple matter of preventing gases from exiting the chamber too fast, creating a "boom". That's how silencers work anyway...
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Originally posted by RejZoR:
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Originally posted by cybermortis:
Mythbusters will not be doing any silencer myths.


Considering we're seeing this in every movie, i don't think it would make any difference testing it or not. It's a simple matter of preventing gases from exiting the chamber too fast, creating a "boom". That's how silencers work anyway...


Adam stated in interview that Mythbusters had looked at silencer myths, and decided for a whole list of reasons that they will NOT be covering any of them.
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Registered: 11-09-09
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a silencer works by allowing the gases to expand before leaving the barrel, a coke bottle will not work
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a silencer works by allowing the gases to expand before leaving the barrel,



Not on the kind of suppressors that are commonly afixed to the end of the barrel.

The gasses don't start to get dispersed and muffled until AFTER the base of the bullet leaves the muzzle, and the bullet and gasses enter the suppressor.
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a silencer works by allowing the gases to expand before leaving the barrel,



Not on the kind of suppressors that are commonly afixed to the end of the barrel.

The gasses don't start to get dispersed and muffled until AFTER the base of the bullet leaves the muzzle, and the bullet and gasses enter the suppressor.

first if you are going to disprove me use a source
secondly the expanding gases that come out after the bullet leaves the barrel are what makes the noise. here is a diagram of a silencer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F...ppressor-WP-Drwg.png
notice that it has an expansion chamber for the gases to expand; as you can see from the diagram the expanding gases mostly expand inside the suppressor and it doesn't make a loud noise
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Registered: 07-14-07
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Originally posted by adam west:
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Originally posted by rick4070:
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a silencer works by allowing the gases to expand before leaving the barrel,



Not on the kind of suppressors that are commonly afixed to the end of the barrel.

The gasses don't start to get dispersed and muffled until AFTER the base of the bullet leaves the muzzle, and the bullet and gasses enter the suppressor.

first if you are going to disprove me use a source
secondly the expanding gases that come out after the bullet leaves the barrel are what makes the noise. here is a diagram of a silencer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F...ppressor-WP-Drwg.png
notice that it has an expansion chamber for the gases to expand; as you can see from the diagram the expanding gases mostly expand inside the suppressor and it doesn't make a loud noise


Which all takes place after the bullet leaves the barrel not before as YOU stated on your first post.
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first if you are going to disprove me use a source



I'll use your very own source.

Notice where the end of the barrel (muzzle) is in relationship to where the baffles start.

The gasses can't start getting dispersed into the baffles until AFTER the base of the bullet leaves the muzzle.

Until that moment, the gasses are still contained in the barrel.

That is when the gasses start getting dispersed,the gasses enter the expansion chamber, and then the base of the bullet passes through the baffles allowing the gasses to be further muffled.

Now, if you want to talk about PORTED barrels, that is a differnt matter.

The barrel is ported, and as the bullet passes these holes, gasses are released into the supressor, and the velocity is somewhat lowered:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F...Heckler_und_Koch.png

Here is Hiram Maxims patent drawing, notice where the muzzle of the barrel is in relationship to the baffles:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F...m_patent_drawing.png
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Registered: 07-28-09
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By your own definition a suppressor cant reduce the noise by trapping the gasses before they leave the barrel. They trap the gasses after it leaves the barrel as it enters the atmosphere. There are a few ways it does this.

The expansion chamber catches the initial blast and reduces the overall pressure before it begins to travel down the baffle stack.

Then, the baffle stack disrupts the pressure and sound wave. That's why baffles are odd shaped and have holes in many designs. A smooth baffle does not do as good of a job.

Finally it converts that pressure and sound energy into heat and burns it off.

So if you are going to dog someone and then point out how they are wrong, at least be right. If you have any other questions feel free to ask. I have been an end user of cans for a long time and am currently a licensed manufacturer of NFA (that's suppressors and machineguns) items.

And yes Adam, a coke bottle will work if done properly with the right caliber.
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