This was tested and revisited I believe, that you could use ice as a bullet, yet I believe on both occasions the ice just melted. What if however, you could use an actual air rifle, or make an air powered custom gun of your own that fired ice bullets, that would eliminate the melting upon firing I believe. This could also make a more likely weapon for assassins as I am pretty sure it could be made fairly quiet at firing, as opposed to a gunpowder gun.
Would love to see this tested, loving the new series btw.

i think part of it was the ice also couldnt hold up to the G-forces but its beenawhile since ive seen that episode.

Was just on discovery in the UK before the new episode (currently watching that now) and there was no mention of G-Forces, maybe it did have an effect I dont know, but the most obvious cause of failure was the intense heat blasting right onto the ice. The air power eliminates that heat.

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Originally posted by Bazzyrick:
This was tested and revisited I believe, that you could use ice as a bullet, yet I believe on both occasions the ice just melted. What if however, you could use an actual air rifle, or make an air powered custom gun of your own that fired ice bullets, that would eliminate the melting upon firing I believe. This could also make a more likely weapon for assassins as I am pretty sure it could be made fairly quiet at firing, as opposed to a gunpowder gun.
Would love to see this tested, loving the new series btw.

What's the point.. IT would still be a busted myth, since the myth entailed a sniper rifle, not an air-rifle...

It might be possible but it would depend on how fast the bullet might go... Cause at certain speeds, the object might heat up...

The movie showed a sniper rifle, in that episode they also tested if it was in any way plausible as a real assassins weapon, using gunpowder it wasnt. This is an alternate method. The myth is can Ice be used as a bullet, not if ice can be fired from a gunpowder using sniper rifle.

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Originally posted by Bazzyrick:
The movie showed a sniper rifle, in that episode they also tested if it was in any way plausible as a real assassins weapon, using gunpowder it wasnt. This is an alternate method.

HELLOOO!!!.. All common bullets uses gunpowder..

The only exception is air-rifles, where the pressurized gas propels the bb.

But as I said, the myth entailed a sniper rifle.. A sniper RIFLE!!!!!!!.. and all rifles uses rounds that has gunpowder in them, nothing else than that..

Re-read my last post.... I am more interested in whether ice could be used as a lethal projectile in real, not whether some movie was real or not, if I was, I would of posted in the movies section.

And if instead of ice bullets you use pykrete or super pykrete? (on air rifle or normal gun, dont care)

referring to the quote "And if instead of ice bullets you use pykrete or super pykrete? (on air rifle or normal gun, dont care)" but then the Pykrete/Super Pykrete would leave a trace and the myth says it would leave no trace

Indeed pykrete would leave quite a puzzling trace to the forensics, but they'd figure it out eventually. The ice would completley melt into harmless water inside the body leaving no notable trace. I also dont think the pykrete would be strong enough in such a small bullet shape, its all about the wood or newspaper fibres gripping each other, and there wouldnt be much friction involved at all.

so what if it wasn't ice or pykrete what if it was some sort of gel that disolved in the body

I think they tried forms of gel in the original episode or the revisit I cant remember, and it didnt work. While melting is probably a big problem for gel bullets being fired by gunpowder, I severely doubt they would withstand the forces of being fired from an air-powered gun and that they would have enough force to penetrate and kill a human being. It would probably just splat on our skin.

what if it was an aerogel which is solid until it is introduced to a liquid

I've not heard of an aerogel but I again think people are missing the point, the keyword is untraceable. No substance in the body that would ring any alarm bells with forensic investigators. I think some gel substance would. I still would want to see the original suggestion tested, an ice bullet fired using air power. I mean think about it, if you want your bullet to melt inside the target leaving no trace then your going to have to use something simple, as your obviously an assassin.

One other small suggestion, if for some reason the ice bullet can penetrate a person but not enough to kill them, would adding a poison into the ice as its frozen make sure they are finished off? I agree this may make it easier to trace, but people assassinate people using bullets so this must still be 1 step up from that.

One other small suggestion, if for some reason the ice bullet can penetrate a person but not enough to kill them, would adding a poison into the ice as its frozen make sure they are finished off? I agree this may make it easier to trace, but people assassinate people using bullets so this must still be 1 step up from that.

One other small suggestion, if for some reason the ice bullet can penetrate a person but not enough to kill them, would adding a poison into the ice as its frozen make sure they are finished off? I agree this may make it easier to trace, but people assassinate people using bullets so this must still be 1 step up from that.

The original myth was the bullet being untracable. Balistics use the straitions or the characteristic scratches on the bullet created by its passage through the barrel. So If you made an ice bullet and used an air gun with enough velocity to penetrate the human targets flesh enough to kill him it would melt and no straitions would be found and the same could be said for using pycrete as well because it will eventually melt in the body. A bullet hole in a person will always be a bullet hole so they will always know they were shot or stabbed.

The pycrete would leave the wood chips inside the person though, yet I still doubt it would withstand the force of being fired even from an air gun, yea it had incredible force when they tested it on the show, but with such a small amount of it, the amount of friction would be much smaller and much weaker. And yes like you said, the bullet being untraceable which is what im curious about, whether an ice bullet fired by air power would work.
Also I dont know why my last post came up 3 times. Cant delete them either.