I would hope that this has been brought up before......BUT: I enjoy Mythbusters. Its one of my never miss programs but the horrible grammer of the narrator makes my skin crawl. Its so bad I'm tempted to turn the audio off and just watch. Don't they diagram sentences in school anymore? Kind of lowers the credibility of the whole show a bit.

The title you gave this thread kind of destroys your credibility by...oh about 100%.

The word is spelled "GRAMMAR"

The narrater is an Englishman.

That bieng said.

His grammAr is actually propper Queen's English and not Americanized.

bsflag beat me to it! I agree: if you're going to write a thread about bad GRAMMAR, you might want to make sure your own thread title and comments are grammar problem free. I see quite a few mistakes. No offense, but as the wonderful Alanna pointed out to me once: don't be the pot calling the kettle black.

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The narrater is an Englishman.

That bieng said.

His grammAr is actually propper Queen's English and not Americanized.

Narrator, being, proper. I do hope you did this deliberately.

Sadly, I rather doubt it was intentional. Ah well, we all make mistakes.

Has any1 noticed that the posts by senior members w/ the most grammatical errors are always those with spelling mistakes> I think its interesting that it happens like that.

And bsflag was using propper aussie english

Ummm......I had just had lunch and failed to wait 30 minutes before I went web surfing. A cramp developed in my left pinky and I could not reach the shift key....Thats my story and I'm sticking to it!

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And bsflag was using propper aussie english

oops..Proper!

I still stick to my story about the cramp.

Heheh, bsflag: you're forgiven in my book!

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Originally posted by caitekins:
the wonderful Alanna pointed out to me once: don't be the pot calling the kettle black.

LOL

This all reminds me of the time when I was on another forum and the webmaster told somebody that they needed to use proper spelling and puntuation. I couldn't help it, I had to reply saying it was spelled punctuation.

When I went to primary school (age 5 to 11) we were physically punished for spelling errors so I cringe when I see "there" instead of "their" and other common mistakes. I am disgusted with the fact that we now have at least one generation of teachers who cannot spell. The response is usually on the lines of, "It doesn't matter as long as you get the meaning across." While this may work with spoken language, it fails dismally with written language. For example, do I infer that baseball "bowlers" are narrators when I read that "every 'pitcher' tells a story" ?

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Originally posted by Grabshot:
Grammer

speling

Wy do everyone spel stuf rong on the mith busters site. And the grammer are terible, this generashin need to be moor teached!

(Ok, it's not THAT bad, but you get my point.)

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Originally posted by manumanu:
When I went to primary school (age 5 to 11) we were physically punished for spelling errors so I cringe when I see "there" instead of "their" and other common mistakes. I am disgusted with the fact that we now have at least one generation of teachers who cannot spell. The response is usually on the lines of, "It doesn't matter as long as you get the meaning across." While this may work with spoken language, it fails dismally with written language. For example, do I infer that baseball "bowlers" are narrators when I read that "every 'pitcher' tells a story" ?

Physically punished? That is ridiculous. If I had a kid and a teacher did that to my kid over a misspelled word, I'd pull them out of the school. Physical punishment over a misspelled word. Man, there are some morons out there.

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Physically punished? That is ridiculous. If I had a kid and a teacher did that to my kid over a misspelled word, I'd pull them out of the school. Physical punishment over a misspelled word. Man, there are some morons out there.

I'm talking 1956 to 1967, a rap on the knuckles with a ruler was very common. The ultimate deterrent was "six of the best" from the headmaster's cane.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporal_punishment

I'll tell you what...I'm a teacher, and it can be awfully tempting .

In all fairness, grammar really is a difficult aspect of the English language to learn. There are so many rules with so many exceptions. Also, don't get me started on homonyms (there, their, and they're; son and sun; whether and weather; it's and its.). It's enough to drive anyone crazy mad out of his or her mind!

When I was going through the Single Subject English Credential program in California, an instructer I had several times informed us that all grammar is intended and supposed to be learned by the 8th grade! The remainder years are supposed to be about reviewing and perfecting. As college students in the English program, he made us take a grammar test typically administered to 8th graders. It was shocking how many of us had difficulty passing the test. From what I've heard, many English teachers shy away from teaching grammar because they are not confident in their own grammar skills.

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[A]n instructer I had several times informed us that all grammar is intended and supposed to be learned by the 8th grade! The remainder years are supposed to be about reviewing and perfecting..... From what I've heard, many English teachers shy away from teaching grammar because they are not confident in their own grammar skills.

I'll agree with you on the 8th grade rule. That is the last time I had to ever diagram a sentence. Other than basic reviews, that is probably a good rule of thumb.

However, these days, students coming out of high school are so far behind on their grammar, and language skills that it's boggles my mind. My wife lets me see her student's papers, and they make we wonder how the **** they passed 6th grade.

These are college freshmen that are completely unable to write a comprehensible sentence, let alone make a half descent argument for towards a point.

My wife even had a student argue with her what sentences are supposed to end in commas, not periods.

There is a difference between having perfect grammar and at least being able to convey an intelligent message. A large portion of her classes (40-70%) cannot even do that.

And the sad part is it seams to be trending in a downward direction each progressing semester.

LOL, wv

My six year old (first grader) is already familiar with homonyms, antonyms, synonyms... So I would expect nothing less from an eighth grader.

I teach at the high school level, and it really is sad how poor their overall language skills are. In the state of California, all students must pass the California High School Exit Exam in English and Math before they can graduate. They begin taking it March of their 10th grade year. The test is based on 8th-9th grade level English Language Arts and Math skills (the math is Pre Algebra, I'm told). THAT’S all we expect our high school students to have mastered before they go off to college and the real world. We have had many 12th graders at my school site not walk for graduation because they have not achieved that level of competency in 1 or both sections. I mean, how are people expecting to succeed in the real world if they cannot communicate effectively in either a verbal or written format?