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I was willing to accept that there were those who were either unable to apply themselves to their fullest intellectual potential, and some who where compelled otherwise. However, upon seeing this, I couldn't help but feel that some of the older generations' concerns are justified. Either these students (and student. You'll get what I mean) need serious help, or we have some pretty bad teachers. Hilarious Exam Answers |
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I have to say that I am a big fan of Peter Nguyen  |
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After reading those test/exams answers definitely I fear for our humanity (meaning of the future generations). The ones that are gonna be the leaders of this nation on the future, god help them. I hope the best for them, because imagine if the president that we have nowadays bush giving speeches internationally sometimes speaking nonsense things that he understands only him
Many we have to blame either the parents themselves, the teachers or the school system one of those are guilty of this absurd things on that link. For failing to give the children the initiative to learn the school materials, letting them do their own stuff/like survive on their own without any help. I saw many parents myself when I was on high school that didn't even cared for their children bad grades, simply because they were to busy on their lives working. Also the lack of dedications of teachers that were there just do to their jobs attend the classes and get her paycheck every friday to pay bills, instead of caring for their students to learn the materials required for their school year.
I read on this forum a post of a concerned parent trying to teach his kid the importance of history(don't really know if everyone read it, but it was interesting) of our country and the world history as well. The difficulty of dealing with his kids lack of interest on the subject especially with learning dates and important events. I think that it all depends 100% on the parents to be on top of their kids trying to help them get interested on school affairs/subjects. The bottom line is, that both parties are to blame for this incidents that is happening to the children education, lack of interest that's it.
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quote: I have to say that I am a big fan of Peter Nguyen
Yes, Peter is very creative. I've seen these and many others. There was one, I don't specifically remember if it was another of Peter Nguyen's or not, but at the very first sentence, the teacher's comment was "Oh, no! Not again!" But the "Find 'x' -- Here it is!" and "Expand..." still make me giggle when I'm in a bad mood. I never went quite this far, but I did try to drive my teachers nuts sometimes. Q: "A kettle has an internal resistance of 30 ohms. If you plug 4 of these kettles in your kitchen, will you blow a 15-amp fuse?" A: "Well, since the receptacles in my kitchen are connected to split circuits, as is required by the electrical code, and since my house has circuit breakers and not fuses, there's no way plugging 4 kettles in would blow a 15-amp fuse." |
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What is really sad is that a number of those pages are college level classes.
Of course, the fun my wife had when she taught college level English, I'm not surprised. When the instructor of a College level class has to make a rule that any paper using txt/AIM language automatically fails, and people still used it, you have to wonder what is wrong with schools nowadays.
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I think there are two factors coming into play there...
1. The student doesn't pay attention in class. This includes written instruction along with lectures.
2. Some students just don't care. They most likely depend on someone else to play referee when things they do end up getting them into trouble and don't have the skills to do the assignment or job properly.
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quote: They most likely depend on someone else to play referee when things they do end up getting them into trouble and don't have the skills to do the assignment or job properly.
The extent that this is true is very disturbing. My wife had one student that was proven to have copied all his work from a student from a previous year. The typical school policy was to give them an Unforgivable F, which is what she gave the student. My wife submitted all th papers and evidence to the chair of the department as the justification. The department decided to negotiate with the student and it went down hill from there. Schools are so worried about hurting someone's feelings that they have no backbone. Despite they have their very own legal school and could fight any lawsuit with some of the best lawyers in the state. She had several students who failed come in and cuss her out. Somehow it was my wife's fault for failing them when they didn't turn in their work. I had to play body guard a few times during my wife's office hours when irate students would come in wondering why the 20 F papers they turned in somehow did not add up to a B. There was one who fail the class because every assignment he turned in was in violation of the No txt/AIM language rule. He at least took his grade like an adult. Of course then there was the time that another teacher caught the star of the girls basketball team cheating their way though the semester and gave them a "UF," but she somehow got a C on her report card, despite the protests of the instructor. |
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When I was in high school, we had a state champion football team and a state champion girls basketball team.
There were many times when the football players got "skate grades" in order to stay on the team (all sport participants were required to maintain at least a C average or better.) Some teachers didn't care one way or the other, those that did care never got football players in their classes. The girls on the basketball team never got such preferential treatment because the coach was very active with the team members and NEVER let them forget their homework or study time. The girl's basketball team in my senior year carried a combined B+ average.
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quote: Originally posted by MicMeister_02:
After reading those test/exams answers definitely I fear for our humanity (meaning of the future generations). The ones that are gonna be the leaders of this nation on the future, god help them. I hope the best for them, because imagine if the president that we have nowadays bush giving speeches internationally sometimes speaking nonsense things that he understands only him
Many we have to blame either the parents themselves, the teachers or the school system one of those are guilty of this absurd things on that link. For failing to give the children the initiative to learn the school materials, letting them do their own stuff/like survive on their own without any help. I saw many parents myself when I was on high school that didn't even cared for their children bad grades, simply because they were to busy on their lives working. Also the lack of dedications of teachers that were there just do to their jobs attend the classes and get her paycheck every friday to pay bills, instead of caring for their students to learn the materials required for their school year.
I read on this forum a post of a concerned parent trying to teach his kid the importance of history(don't really know if everyone read it, but it was interesting) of our country and the world history as well. The difficulty of dealing with his kids lack of interest on the subject especially with learning dates and important events. I think that it all depends 100% on the parents to be on top of their kids trying to help them get interested on school affairs/subjects. The bottom line is, that both parties are to blame for this incidents that is happening to the children education, lack of interest that's it.
I think you're taking it a bit too seriously. I'm pretty sure most of those are fakes. Sure there was probably a couple that are real, which is what sparked the idea to make more. "Find X" is not even used (maybe it did in the past?). I'm in high school now, and any question that wants you to find X is asked as "Solve for X" rather than "Find X" |
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That's the one thing I hated about High School: it's not what you know, but who you know. I busted my @ss to carry a 3.4 ave, only for someone to blow off school and end up with the exact same average just because her daddy was on the board of education.
Imagine her shock when 'daddy' didn't carry any weight in college. That is why I love college. You are actually evaluated based on what you know and if you can do the work. Of course, professors can fail you for any reason there, so some kissing up doesn't hurt. And my university has no tolerance for plagiarism. If you copy a paper or have someone else write it, you are kicked out right there, and have to wait a while to get back in if you ever do.
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quote: Originally posted by MicMeister_02:
I think you're taking it a bit too seriously. I'm pretty sure most of those are fakes. Sure there was probably a couple that are real, which is what sparked the idea to make more.
"Find X" is not even used (maybe it did in the past?). I'm in high school now, and any question that wants you to find X is asked as "Solve for X" rather than "Find X"
I'm in middle school, and my social studies teacher is possibly the funniest guy this world has ever seen. I mean it! For example, last November, my class learned the truth about how Paul Revere's informant got his info: he was secretly banging the British General's wife!!!  Anyways, halfway through class, Mr. Ford erased the board. He then wrote the "find X" problem on the board. Because everyone was taking algebra at the time, the unanimous answer was 5 cm. "Nope, you're all wrong. Here's it is," and he circled the X! My favorite one on the website by far would be this one: ________________________________________________ 1 --- sin x=? n 1 --- si nx= nsix=6 ________________________________________________ |
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quote: The girls on the basketball team never got such preferential treatment because the coach was very active with the team members and NEVER let them forget their homework or study time. The girl's basketball team in my senior year carried a combined B+ average.
The university my wife taught for had some very good coaches and some bad ones. the womens basketball coach is won of the worst for pressuring teachers to pass her players. The old men's basketball coach was excellent. the team average was above a 3.0 and he had no problem kicking off a player who couldn't keep grades up on their own. He kicked the star forward off one year because of that. He left and they got a new guy who is into the "Thug basketball" style. I don't have much hope for the accidemic standards with the new guy. Football for a long time was notorious for the kids somehow staying on with bad grades. (for the starters, 2nd and 3rd string players had to keep them up though.) Players would be arrested and sometimes come to practice or even games drunk. That coach recently left and the new one seams to be cracking down. I guess the irony is that the teams that did the very best were the ones with the higher (honest) GPA's. The ones who really had to work for everything (grades, playing, etc) would go further in the championships. |
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Ok, first things first. MicMeister_02, if you are going to comment so strongly about these test/exams you could at least do so using correct wording, capitalization and punctuation. Here is your first paragraph, there are plenty of mistakes there. quote: After reading those test/exams answers definitely I fear for our humanity (meaning of the future generations). The ones that are gonna be the leaders of this nation on the future, god help them. I hope the best for them, because imagine if the president that we have nowadays bush giving speeches internationally sometimes speaking nonsense things that he understands only him
Lastly, who are we to say that these kids aren't excellent students? I remember plenty of times where I had the correct answer but opted for comedy instead. Missing one answer on a test was no big deal to me as long as I knew the rest were correct. It is along the same lines as when I used neon pens to do my algebra in high school just because I knew the teacher had a terrible time reading it. I'm not saying that is the case with all of these, or any of these, but we simply can't know. |
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quote: Missing one answer on a test was no big deal to me as long as I knew the rest were correct. It is along the same lines as when I used neon pens to do my algebra in high school just because I knew the teacher had a terrible time reading it.
I worked for a teacher in college and did a LOT of grading. I had all sorts of answers. One I remember was Q: What is NAFTA? A: Tacos are good. Typically, if they made me laugh, I would give them a point or so, but not enough to effect the grade at all (1-2%). If they were rude to me or the instructor, they got nothing at all. My thing is that I'll be nicer to someone who admits they don't know and has fun with it. It make my job of correcting papers for a class of 250 easier. Along the same lines if I couldn't read it, there was no credit given. Had one who liked using pink. I failed them on the first couple assignments because I couldn't read their answers. I sent that student a message and requested they change their color. They changed to dark purple which I didn't mind and they did fairly well. If the instructions were to use black or blue ink and they didn't do it, they automatically lost 25-60% for not following instructions. |
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quote: Originally posted by chowderhead46: .... . I'm in middle school, and my social studies teacher is possibly the funniest guy this world has ever seen. I mean it! For example, last November, my class learned the truth about how Paul Revere's informant got his info: he was secretly banging the British General's wife!!! Anyways, halfway through class, Mr. Ford erased the board. He then wrote the "find X" problem on the board. Because everyone was taking algebra at the time, the unanimous answer was 5 cm. "Nope, you're all wrong. Here's it is," and he circled the X! My favorite one on the website by far would be this one: ________________________________________________ 1 --- sin x=? n 1 --- si nx= nsix=6 ________________________________________________
. I love that one too! Very creative. But almost too creative to be real. |
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Jeremey Lavine was in way over his head. ( I needed a good laugh  ) |
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quote: I think there are two factors coming into play there...
1. The student doesn't pay attention in class. This includes written instruction along with lectures.
2. Some students just don't care. They most likely depend on someone else to play referee when things they do end up getting them into trouble and don't have the skills to do the assignment or job properly.
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Students only, don't really know it's that all true. I think that teachers some of them are to blame as well for the kids failure in school. I saw a lot of teachers in my high school years that they were not really caring for the students at all. I was one of them, that they didn't even cared If I was falling on the poetry class(which by the way it was boring to me) maybe that was the reason I was getting bad grades because I didn't even liked the class, but anyways the story is that the teachers sometimes don't really pay too much attention the students especially if they are falling behind in the classroom. quote: Originally posted by: Z_bolin.
Ok, first things first. MicMeister_02, if you are going to comment so strongly about these test/exams you could at least do so using correct wording, capitalization and punctuation. Here is your first paragraph, there are plenty of mistakes there.
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After reading those test/exams answers definitely I fear for our humanity (meaning of the future generations). The ones that are gonna be the leaders of this nation on the future, god help them. I hope the best for them, because imagine if the president that we have nowadays bush giving speeches internationally sometimes speaking nonsense things that he understands only him
That's for the correction there, I miss one comma and a capitalization of the word God I think. But anyways all my opinions were true to the fact that I had seem it in high school a lot. quote: Lastly, who are we to say that these kids aren't excellent students?
They might be an excellent students at school with a lot of potential to do better in anything that they put their mind into. I'm not criticizing them not at all z_bolin. All I'm saying is that it might be their(students) fault for not paying attention in class distracting having conversation with their classmates or playing around instead of paying close attention to the teachers lecture. Or it might be the teachers fault for not putting their full dedication/potential to the kids to getting them to learn the school materials. |
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It's not the teacher's fault if the kid finds the class boring. There are things that teachers can do to make the subject more interesting, but it's not up to the teacher to make the kid learn. You failed poetry because you found it boring and wasn't inclined to put for your best effort on a subject that you found useless. I got a D in typing because the teacher would not let me adjust the seat and ended up with back problems. Which person deserved their grade more?
IF the teacher isn't teaching, that's one thing. If you aren't putting forth your best effort because you thought the class was boring, that's fully another.
I have had classes where the teacher was a very dynamic individual and I've had classes with teachers who were less dimensional than a sheet of blank paper. What the teacher's demeanor was doesn't matter. I made my grades regardless of the "quality" of teacher.
If you want to learn, you learn.
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You can’t blame a teacher because a child doesn’t learn, but having a teacher that really loves her/his subject sure helps. When my son was in school he did well in the science and math classes but had no interest in any of the other courses. Then he had to take a history class in his freshman year of HS. The teacher LOVED history. He was a walking History Channel. He taught with such enthusiasm that it had to rub off. My son became so interested in history that he couldn’t decide to go on to collage and major in history or science. He ended up with a major in computer science and a minor in history and was president of the collage’s history club for two years. All because of one teachers love for his subject.
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Well, one thing I also think needs to be pointed out here is that d@mn TAKS test (pardon my language, but that's not even close to how I feel about it). I don't know what it's like in other states, but going through the Texas schools, Texas being the 'lucky' recipient of this test, I can sa one thing: the teachers are under more pressure to teach you how to TAKE the stupid test than they are to teach you whats ON the test. We spent three weeks covering 'good test taking strategies'. This included crossing out wrong answers to show a process of elimination, even if you knew the answer and didn't have to cross any out. On the math part, you had to work out EVERY problem, even those that were so painfully obvious that working it out wasn't worth the time and lead used. And the reading/writing (which, I consider myself a fairly strong writer, academically and creatively) required so many components in your answer for it to even get a B grade; many of which were not necessary to correctly answer the questions, but were simply put in to appease the sadistic retired English teachers who graded them. Your short answers had to have a direct quote from the passage you read (understandable and not unreasonable). However, if you put too much space between words, you got points deducted. If your handwriting was sloppy, you got points deducted regardless of how right or wrong the answer was. That shoots me in the foot because my handwriting makes a doctor's look like calligraphy.
There were just so many things that were graded that had NOTHING to do with a student's knowledge or understanding of the concepts being tested that it's ridiculous.
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