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Originally posted by cockerspaniel1234:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by angeeleeta:


No they are not.

Is google a breed registry? No.
Is your aunt a breed registry? No.

Show me their breed standard and what actual and noteable organization recognizes them as a breed, and then maybe we can talk about their status as being a legitimate breed and not a mutt.
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When did you become such an expert at dog breeds??Oh... wait you must be a crazy dog lady!!! Thats why!!!

Actually angeeleeta is right. She is not a crazy dog lady and it is very rude of you to say this. Golden-doodles are "designer breeds". This title of designer breeds was given by people who are out looking to make money and saw an opportunity by making a mutt look more appealing. Breeds are meant to be understood as PURE breeds. Yes pure breeds come from mixing of other breeds blah blah blah. But until they are recognized by a number of dog associations such as AKC and are given specific breed standards in appearance and temperament then a godlen-doodle is not a breed.

Also the whole "google it" thing is a bit absurd. You cannot trust everything on the internet. Anybody can set up a website calling a golden-doodle a "breed"

a goldendoodle is not a breed 5 generations of a dog must 'breed true' i.e. all puppies have the same conformation. before it can even be looked at as being considered a breed. no direct line mix can be a 'breed' because if you breed a poodle to a golden retriever it will be different almost every time. i.e. no conformation.

50 miles isn't far to get to a shelter. My next dog i will be driving 5 hours to pick up one way

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Originally posted by cockerspaniel1234:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by angeeleeta:


No they are not.

Is google a breed registry? No.
Is your aunt a breed registry? No.

Show me their breed standard and what actual and noteable organization recognizes them as a breed, and then maybe we can talk about their status as being a legitimate breed and not a mutt.
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When did you become such an expert at dog breeds??Oh... wait you must be a crazy dog lady!!! Thats why!!!

Why, yes I am!

Crazy Dog Lady Land is the name of my future dog buisness.

A few of my friends refer to me by this too.

I obviously know more about dog breeds then you. I'm still waiting to see that breed standard and registry from you.

GO WITH A LAB!!!!!!!!OR A MUTT!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by angeeleeta:

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Originally posted by cockerspaniel1234:
Yeah!!! A golden-doodle is a breed!!!! it is a poodle and a golden retriver mixed!!! Even look it up on google!!!! and my aunt even has one!!

No they are not.

Is google a breed registry? No.
Is your aunt a breed registry? No.

Show me their breed standard and what actual and noteable organization recognizes them as a breed, and then maybe we can talk about their status as being a legitimate breed and not a mutt.

THERE IS A DIFERENCE!!!!! DOGS IN A REGISTRY ARE CALLED "REGINIZED" (know i spelled that wrong) BREEDS!!!! JUST CUZ IT IS NOT IN THE DOG BOOKS DOES NOT MEAN IT IS NOT A BREED!!!! A BREED IS A TYPE OF DOG THAT THERE IS A NUMBER OF!!!! A GOLDEN DOODLE IS A BREED!!!!

listen! stop it! i KNOW "get a dog from the shelter" stuff!!!! i'm in somewhat of a bad mood to get a shelter dog!! my last GSP before sally, tragicly died of CANCER!!! not in the mood 4 shelter ds now!! maybe later! BUT NOT NOW

and i HAVE seen Golden Doodles! my neighboor has 2!!

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Originally posted by sapphiresally:

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Originally posted by angeeleeta:

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Originally posted by cockerspaniel1234:
Yeah!!! A golden-doodle is a breed!!!! it is a poodle and a golden retriver mixed!!! Even look it up on google!!!! and my aunt even has one!!

No they are not.

Is google a breed registry? No.
Is your aunt a breed registry? No.

Show me their breed standard and what actual and noteable organization recognizes them as a breed, and then maybe we can talk about their status as being a legitimate breed and not a mutt.

THERE IS A DIFERENCE!!!!! DOGS IN A REGISTRY ARE CALLED "REGINIZED" (know i spelled that wrong) BREEDS!!!! JUST CUZ IT IS NOT IN THE DOG BOOKS DOES NOT MEAN IT IS NOT A BREED!!!! A BREED IS A TYPE OF DOG THAT THERE IS A NUMBER OF!!!! A GOLDEN DOODLE IS A BREED!!!!

So all of my mutts are breeds then? My Spitzoodle, Jackarainian and Pitbullbull are all "designer" breeds cause I said so?

I gave them a cute name and I saw one so it must be real!!!

Newsflash:

A breed standard and registry is what defines a breed. Without that, the breed doens't exist. Sorry to burst your bubble but it's a MUTT.

Here's a dictionary term for you:

Breed: Genetics. a relatively homogenous group of animals within a species, developed and maintained by humans.

Homgenous: Biology. corresponding in structure because of a common origin.

again not a breed or else shelter dogs would be breeds as well. they aren't, they're mutts thank you case closed. I've seen a poodle/golden too it's called a mutt. Like my border collie pointer is a mutt, it is not a breed. Again a breed has to be able to breed true which I already explained.

No one is suggesting that you have never seen a golden-doodle.

If you want to call a golden-doodle a breed then every other mixed mutt can be called a breed. My Shepherd Collie mix can be considered a breed. Hmmm lets try make up a cutesy name for it



You really need to understand the definition of a breed before going around and calling any mutt that people pay way to much for a breed.

ok people this is REDIULOUS!!!!!!!!!!! saphiresally started this poll to ask people what kind of dog she wants no to argue if a golden-doodle is a breed or not!!!

We're all experts on dog breeds here except obviously for you. A goldendoole, or a schnoodle, or a chuggle...ect. they are all crossbreeds not worth paying money for!! Get thee to a shelter. They always have a fresh and new supply of poogles, or dach-huas, or maltepugs...ect. ect. ect.

I NEVER ARGUED!!!!!I think you got me mixed up with cockerspaniel1234 she was argueing with you!!!!

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Originally posted by cockerspaniellvr23:
I NEVER ARGUED!!!!!I think you got me mixed up with cockerspaniel1234 she was argueing with you!!!!

She made a simple mistake in mixing your name up with the other. No need to get mad. I almost made the same mistake earlier

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Originally posted by cockerspaniellvr23:
I NEVER ARGUED!!!!!I think you got me mixed up with cockerspaniel1234 she was argueing with you!!!!

I did mix up the names, they're nearly identical.

Well I forgive you for saying that i am not mad!!!

sorry. I associate caps and lots of exclamation marks with people being mad since that is what everyone does when they are irritated

Wow, this is getting a bit ridiculous. A goldendoodle is a MIXED BREED, which, if you take the words apart, means it is a mix of one or more PURE BREEDS. I don't think anyone is denying that they exist, and in fact I've even seen a Choodle (A chow poodle mix; very cute actually). I'm pretty sure everyone here also believes that your aunt has a goldendoodle. The only difference of opinion is what the word breed means.

As given by Wikipedia, "A dog breed is a group of dogs that have very similar or nearly identical characteristics of appearance or behavior or, usually, both, primarily because they come from a select set of ancestors who had the same characteristics."

So you see, breed is a very selective term, so as long as you call the goldendoodle a mixed breed, not just a breed, everyone can just go back to not arguing about definitions.

i would look at a shelter if you want a mixed breed dog like a 'golden doodle' buying one only supports byb's which is bad, very bad. research each breed, see what their energy levels are. Do you have the time to walk and play with all these dogs etc. What health problems are prevailant in each breed? Can you find a reputable breeder that's not a puppy mill and the people show their dogs closer than the local shelter?

Hey SapphireSally, EgyptianSaluki309 here....
That's cool, you're DOG CRAZY too!!!!! So am I. I would do some extra research if I we're you. I was about 10 when I could tell you everything about dogs. Breed standards,history, ect.
I'm in my teens now, so but dogs will always be #1 in my intrests box! Rock on Crazy Dog People , Rock On!