We went to the humane society the other day to find my daughter a puppy,and a lady voluntenteering there said"every dog and cat should be spayed or neutered".How stupid is that if evvery dog and cat was fixed they would become extinct! I always have mine fixed,but I do not believe all of them should.

of course not all. I kind of have a mix feeling about it because i think that unless your dogs are up to standard and have titles they should be fixed but then you have mostly show breeders and even their pet quality pups are alot and the people who can only afford to adopt wont be able to own one. Then again I'm sure there will always be people who dont do it and there will be accidental breedings and free pups.

I doubt that the woman at the shelter meant it like that.

She most likely just means that breeders should breed their dogs, and pets should be spayed and neutered to just be happy healthy pets, without the worry of getting more dogs into the shelters.

I think you probably just misunderstood her.

I don't know if I did she seemed to be tired of the animals she didn't act like she liked being there.That is why i am at the point where i just said screw the humane society they bite everyones head of that comes through the door.Noone is holding them hostage they shouldn't be there if they don't truly want to help people looking to adopt an animal.

I agree heat I'm amazed at places that have mandatory spay and neuter laws. I think places like puppy mills should be outlawed and puppies/cats should not be able to be sold at pet stores at all but there are some animals that should be bred to preserve the breed and even within certain breeds the original intent.

Titles can depend however on the breed and original purpose. Many work quality dogs could never get an akc ch title such as working German shepherds.

I don't think dogs are in any danger if being extinct. In fact, I think it's laughable that you may think that's an issue.

Here some statistics for you to think about:

*every year, puppy mills throughout the U.S. produce MILLIONS of puppies.

*25 million dogs and cats are put to sleep every year in the U.S.

*today, www.petfinder.com lists 252,784 pets for adoption

You still don't think all the pets that are in shelters need to be fixed?

Not to mention pet population problems in other countries around the world. In China they love large orange dogs... to eat.

I did not say I think they are in danger of becoming extinct!! Please read what people write.I said the wman in the shelter was appearantly tired of doing what she had volunteered to do and said.I think EVERY dog and cat should be altered.Think about it EVERY single 1 of them.I do think most people need to spay or neuter,but I do not think EVERY 1 should.If infact every single dog and cat was altered then yes in fact they would become extinct over time.I just get so tired of people volunteering @ the humane society,just to be as rude as possible to people coming in looking to adopt or foster.

Just because there are a lot of dogs does not mean any are good examples of the breed. So no, dogs may never go extinct in terms of what we find in the shelter but you will loose good examples of the breed.

For example back home there aren't really any good examples of working rottweilers. hence my drive to form a kennel that will provide such with dogs tested in hd and ed but cardiac as well which is a growing concern among the dog breeding community.

True where I live also.I have looked at many different breeds in my area,and I was not impressed.I am going to have to drive 3 hours away to get my cocker spaniel.The workers at our humane society are also very rude.I looked into adoption,but I felt so attacked,because of other irresponsible owners,they seem to take it out on everyone.The Humane society has truly become there own worst enemy.

I would have to agree. I believe that if half the ethical dog breeders or trainers went to adopt they would be rejected due to some weird requirement the humane society ha and then you have the other half which are too lenient. i have seen places let dogs go unfixed.

*sigh* i regretted spaying my cat. she is so sweet and nurturing im like her foster kitten and i feel bad she could not have at least one battch of kittens. her beauty will die with her..
hhhmmmm i would love to work at the shelter for the selfish feeling of pleasure as i see a family walk away happily with a new pet though. some people only volunteer because they want to seem like good ppl.

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Originally posted by heat2581:
I did not say I think they are in danger of becoming extinct!! Please read what people write.I said the wman in the shelter was appearantly tired of doing what she had volunteered to do and said.I think EVERY dog and cat should be altered.Think about it EVERY single 1 of them.I do think most people need to spay or neuter,but I do not think EVERY 1 should.If infact every single dog and cat was altered then yes in fact they would become extinct over time.I just get so tired of people volunteering @ the humane society,just to be as rude as possible to people coming in looking to adopt or foster.

Actually, you did say that they would become extinct. You said it in the first post.

you are right!! heat2581 did say they will become extinct! and everyone knows they wont all die out, because there is millons of dog,cats,ext in the whole wide world!!!!

Unless you professionally show your dogs, all other dogs should be spayed and neutered! You have to have a little pity for the shelter volunteer. For every good animal owner there are probably ten stupid owners. And although she should have been a little nicer, she was probably expecting the worst.

I'm sorry I give no pity to those who cast glaring generalizations. Why? those same stupid generalizations are what cause BSL and stupid laws to be passed like mandatory spay and neuter.

BSL laws are stupid. And that's an example of how stupid people can be when it comes to dogs. I'm not saying shelter workers have a right to be rude. But if they are I can understand why. The best thing to do is to show them that you know about dogs. And if they are still rude, then by all means, go somewhere else.

Honestly, I don't think dogs and cats are going to go extinct any time soon.
But it's funny, that I would come across this post.
Because in Brevard County(like 2 hours away from Orlando,Florida) they are trying to pass a law that everyone who owns a cat or dog must spay or neuter them. And if you don't you have to buy a permit for like $100 so they don't have to be spayed or neutered. I think this is a very good idea, because normally only the responsible people who are breeding their dogs for the right reasons would buy one.

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Originally posted by juclyn:
Honestly, I don't think dogs and cats are going to go extinct any time soon.
But it's funny, that I would come across this post.
Because in Brevard County(like 2 hours away from Orlando,Florida) they are trying to pass a law that everyone who owns a cat or dog must spay or neuter them. And if you don't you have to buy a permit for like $100 so they don't have to be spayed or neutered. I think this is a very good idea, because normally only the responsible people who are breeding their dogs for the right reasons would buy one.

I am also a fan of mandatory spay/neuter laws.

I would like to see stricter laws regarding spaying/neutering, but I don't think a $100 permit would work. $100 is far less than most spays/neuters cost. If they try to force you to do one or the other, many people would pay the $100 for the permit to NOT alter their pet rather than paying the $200+ for the "alteration". Another problem... everyone is supposed to have a lisence for their pet. I, personally know of several people that dont have one. The only way to catch them is to do door-to-door checks. How we they be able to ensure that all animals are spayed/neutered?

I was thinking that if vets would help they could charge more for services of un-altered pets (the county already charges more for licensing of un-altered pets). However, maybe then owners would be less likely to get vet care for their animals. Bottom line... There is no easy solution.

Some of it could be left up to dog breeders. I know most responsible dog breeders want puppies not going to showing be fixed. You're right, a lot of people would pay money to not have their animals fixed. But even if a few escape it, it is a step towards reducing over-population of dogs.